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Blackest Night #5 Review, Who "Rises" In This Issue?

Have you heard who the 'latest' Black Lantern is?

We're passed the halfway point in Blackest Night.  It seems like issue #1 was so long ago.  Like most of you, I was super excited over this series.  With all the 'deaths' and Blackest Night tie-ins, is that excitement still there?
 

  
There was a reason that issue #4 didn't get reviewed.  While I really enjoyed this issue, I feel as if I've had too many "events" lately.  Despite the quality of this issue along with the twists and turns, I just can't get as excited as I was in the beginning.  It's an unfortunate thing and this issue doesn't deserve to get the brunt of my 'comic-event overload.'  Part of me is just jaded over all the crazy things that happen in this issue.  We saw the "rise" of a major character.  Do you buy it?  I have a hard time with it.  Then there's the ultra-craziness at the end.  Let's be realistic, there's just no way that's going to stick.  But you could say the way it happened could be a factor in that.
 
Geoff Johns is continuing with his masterplan.  I have to wonder how many people on the "inside" know where he's taking all of this.  I'm digging it but I have to say I'm looking forward to the end.  It's simply been event after event.  We all need a break.  Events shouldn't drive all the comics.  It may not be easy to write a good event but it's also not easy writing single story arcs that can have a big impact.  That would be my challenge to all the publishers behind these big events.  Let's see some great stories that don't have to be pumped up into some crazy crisis.  
 
Ivan Reis continues to nail it with the art.  Alex Sinclair goes all out with the colors.  When the "Rainbow Rodeo" appear, they almost jump off the page.  If you've read the first four issues, there's no question whether or not you're going to read this one.  It's good stuff.  I definitely will have to come back and read the entire story after it ends and I have time to recover from all of it.  It's an enjoyable story but I need some time away from all the events.  But there's no way I can walk away from this series at this point. 
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Posted by Zniperking

yep batman's back from the dead

Posted by Ectoplasmic

I don't know how you could become finally burned out on events with Blackest Night and not during the constant milking which was Dark Reign.

Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau

lmao @ the "Rainbow Rodeo." Cool review. I think you summed up the over all feelings most fans of the story have.
 
(colored people...seriously? lol)

Posted by Dipic
@Gambler said:
" lmao @ the "Rainbow Rodeo." Cool review. I think you summed up the over all feelings most fans of the story have.
 
(colored people...seriously? lol) "
"Rainbow Rodeo" ha ... I lol'ed at that too.
Posted by CM9

is saint walker in it?
Posted by Push
@Zniperking said:
"yep batman's back from the dead "


No, he aint! His corpse was risen for a few panels for a purpose then went back once his task was done for Nekron!
Posted by wordchallenge

Blackest Night has been and continues to be fantastic. The creative team is doing an amazing job. Geoff, if you read this, please pm me and let me know where this is all leading

Posted by Pez85

I laughed a little too loud when G-Man said "all these coloured people".

Edited by FoxxFireArt

Wow, there must be a lot of excitement in the Comic Vine studios. Grammar mistakes are abound. "Gets rips heart out." and Babs' "Map Man"(sounds like a weak MegaMan robot). lol At least you caught yourself there.
 
Really, you could almost call an event like this a failure if you are nearing the end and the excitement level has diminished. If your most loyal reader base just wants it over with. It shows that your pacing is off, but I think pacing is a near impossible thing to get right in comics that deal with a single series. Let alone those that extend to the whole universe.
I think Marvel has gone beyond burn out. They have almost charred the reader. Ever since Civil War it's just been one event after the next. Even now, The Siege is about to start with no clear indication of how long this will be. Though, I think they committed themselves to this after Dark Reign began. You can't have the villains taking over and the status quo return suddenly.
 
You bring up a very good question here. Normally, a zombie bite is classically what leads to a person becoming a zombie, depending on the stories mythology. It's different with Blackest Night, because what makes these zombies is the Black Lantern Rings. How does that effect translate to a bite on a living person with no ring?
 

That picture of Batman kind of reminds me of this image of Batman with Green Lantern powers. Though, how can that actually be Bruce Wayne when he was sent into the past? Unless what was buried was actually one of those many clones. If memory serves me well. All of those clones died once they were given Bruce's memories. They couldn't handle the stress of it all. If that is a clone that was given the memories. He would think of himself as Bruce Wayne. That's just a theory.
 
You bring up a very good point again about it just being a trick. Though if it is a trick, did they really need to go to the extent to rob what they thought was Bruce's grave? Perhaps they robbed the grave, realized that wasn't him, but still wanted the emotional reaction from those who knew him. I guess we will have to see if this Batman somehow says something that shows who he is.
Posted by mattydeNero

This was definitely the first issue of the entire mini-series that made me stand up, jaw dropped.  I'm sure a lot of people will be upset with some of the events but they'll get over it.  I believe in Johns' "masterplan".
Posted by War Killer

That's what's making he not like all of these events, with both Marvel and DC, I love that we're getting these huge battles that have all of the heroes fighting some really bad villain, don't get me wrong I love those stories, I just don"t like having a story that is 7-8 issues long and takes up my whole year, I like events, but like inferiorego was talking about is his article, I don't like it when a book is alomost 10 issues long and cuts into my other titles as tie-ins, I would be fine with just 5 issues, that's good for me, but 8 is just a little to much for me,

Posted by danhimself

there is no question as to who's body it is....somehow when he was hit by Darkseid's beams there was a new body made and sent back to the past....We saw Superman carrying Bruce's body out of Darkseid's castle/base/headquarters/whatever

Posted by Moomin123
@Zniperking said:
"yep batman's back from the dead "

Not necassarily. 
 
I really liked this issue. I can't wait for issues 6. 7 and 8.
Posted by Dr. Detfink

Tell you this much, G-man...you missed out in issue #4 Barry Allen delivering a Norman  Schwarzkopf speech that rallied the troops. Geoff Johns FINALLY wrote Barry Allen right. At least better than any single issue of Flash Rebirth.  
 
So what is the Guardians FINAL lie that Nekron keeps harping about it?  
 
Anyone care to place bets that Nekron was the White lantern and the Guardians fucked him over so they could harnass the power of light? My guess based on the part where the rainbow lanterns poured their light into the Black Lantern Battery and it only made him stronger.  
 
Bruce's debut was good but what's coming up in Batman and Robin will be better concerning "the Lazarus Pit."
Posted by jagged glass

Mega-events like Blackest Night, Dark Reign and Siege can be awesome, but I'm with you when I say that they should be fairly rare occurances. That stuff will drain the reader. The heroes too would be exhausted, but will find themselves in the middle of anoher universe ending crisis in the next minute!
 
Oh, and if you want to dig a little deeper in the Black Hand's psyche (if you can stomach such a personality), then you'll love those pages of the Book of the Black.
Posted by Risky

I personally favour the idea of an impostor in the bat costume (simply because I hate when continuity is messed up). Guess there's not much work dressing a random Black Lantern in a bat costume (your next wall mart has one for 4.99 $ lol) and chasing it at the heros for emotional shock. Would also explain why Nekron destroyed him because he didn't want his fake to be discovered.

Posted by RoninKane

 Could the Batman corpse be one of those clones they were trying to make of batman on Apocolips in "Last Rites" ? I'm asking, I did not read final crisis, I know the clones could not handle Bruces' pain and their minds shorted out but did the clone bodies get destroyed. Just a theory, give me some feed back!

Posted by Satyrquaze

"...coloured people..."  
 
Really, G-Man? REALLY? I knew it!!
Posted by johnny_spam

The events are what selling the most in comics the most selling books at DC were Blackest Night books and Batman and Robin last month it is what most people are interested in and that trend will probably continue because it works. Next year there is suppose to be a Justice League driven event as well as a Superman based storyline maybe even Grant Morrison's Multiversity so this will go on for a while.

Posted by afierce

I agree with you completely G-Man, the events are making me so tired! They really are great stories, but I just feel like they're too much to keep up with... I'm really excited for them to end, not because I hate them, but because I like them so much. That doesn't make much sense does it? It does in my head...

Posted by Xion

from my pov, it was a trick, cause when bruce goes back to being a body, Necron says "Go back to rest "Bruce Wayne" "

Posted by Fresh0133

Dan Didio said in an interview way back in May over on Newsarama that the body Supes had at the end of Final Crisis wasn't Bruce's, now, granted as far as we know Dan Turpin/Darkseid was the only other person in the bunker with Bruce when he "died", but both Orion and DanSeid said "He's in all of us" as they were dying in Final Crisis, so there's really no telling who the heck that corpse was, I've got theories of course, Anthro, Infinity Man, etc..., but that's all speculation on my part.
Posted by goldenkey

I KNOW WHO COULD BEAT NEKKRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   JESSE JACKSON!!!!!  He's the leader of the Rainbow Coalition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by sfizzle

I think i know what you are trying to say. As awesome as Blackest night is i'm looking forward to when it is over and we are left to deal with the after math, all the characters will be more concerned with getting their lives in order and hopefully there won't be a big event in dc for a while.

Posted by G-Man
@Ectoplasmic: I mentioned that I was getting burnt out by this and the event at the "other publisher" in the video.  To me though, Dark Reign isn't as tight of an event.  It's just the mood or atmosphere in the Marvel Universe versus this having more direct affects.
 
@Dr. Detfink: I didn't skip issue #4.  I just skipped reviewing it.
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Posted by drawme

This was one massive review. I haven´t read Blackest Night but I think this sounds great. Hopefully, it won´t take me too long to get the last issues.

Edited by 00 Raiser

So what is Indigo creed? This would be the first time that it is ever heard.

Posted by King Quisling

Overkill... just a bit. :-/ 

Posted by spectaculous

okay, so i'm sure this has been asked in a thread, and i know there's a ton of confusion as to who's body that is since bruce is in time....but who's body does dick have then? maybe bruce's real body and this one that raised (rose?) from the dead is a decoy?
Posted by spectaculous
@danhimself:
great theory, this one makes a ton of sense to me
Posted by Grim
@danhimself said:
" there is no question as to who's body it is....somehow when he was hit by Darkseid's beams there was a new body made and sent back to the past....We saw Superman carrying Bruce's body out of Darkseid's castle/base/headquarters/whatever "
i think what happens is this: 
 when the rings latch on, they download the memories of your life flashing before your eyes... but Batman isnt dead. So i think it took a butt load of power for Necron to raise him just for that few seconds. Notice batman didnt really do anything, unlike every other Black Lantern. he just spit some rings (which his skull has been doing) and then Necron turned him back.  
 Why would he turn him back? If it was a normal raising, he should have been able to keep him around like a personal guard or pet or something.  
 I think necron couldnt raise him. I think it was just a quick show to make those elite heroes susceptible to the rings. I think the reason all these random people have been raised is because they arent random, their the most important people in the lives of the heroes their attacking.  
Maybe you need to be willing to open up and be compassionate for the rings to really take you, instead of just re-animating a shell. Maybe thats why Donna is having a reaction. and maybe thats why all of those heroes got an emotional connection to batman. and that would also tap into why the indigo lanterns have a bunch of extra powers. 
 
but yeah, batmans essence is whats destined to live less meaningful lives, but his body here was hollowed out, not killed. thats why everyone keeps saying he's not dead. because he didnt really die, he just took his life elsewhere, and left his body here.
Posted by Fresh0133
@Grim said:
" @danhimself said:
" there is no question as to who's body it is....somehow when he was hit by Darkseid's beams there was a new body made and sent back to the past....We saw Superman carrying Bruce's body out of Darkseid's castle/base/headquarters/whatever "
i think what happens is this:  when the rings latch on, they download the memories of your life flashing before your eyes... but Batman isnt dead. So i think it took a butt load of power for Necron to raise him just for that few seconds. Notice batman didnt really do anything, unlike every other Black Lantern. he just spit some rings (which his skull has been doing) and then Necron turned him back.   Why would he turn him back? If it was a normal raising, he should have been able to keep him around like a personal guard or pet or something.   I think necron couldnt raise him. I think it was just a quick show to make those elite heroes susceptible to the rings. I think the reason all these random people have been raised is because they arent random, their the most important people in the lives of the heroes their attacking.  Maybe you need to be willing to open up and be compassionate for the rings to really take you, instead of just re-animating a shell. Maybe thats why Donna is having a reaction. and maybe thats why all of those heroes got an emotional connection to batman. and that would also tap into why the indigo lanterns have a bunch of extra powers.  but yeah, batmans essence is whats destined to live less meaningful lives, but his body here was hollowed out, not killed. thats why everyone keeps saying he's not dead. because he didnt really die, he just took his life elsewhere, and left his body here. "
    http://www.newsarama.com/comics/050915-DiDio.html
 
DiDio himself says the body isn't Bruce's point blank, hence my beliefe of the use of quotation marks when he called him by name, it's someone or something elses and that the mystery of who or what it is will be explored through out the year, guess we're seeing that exploration starting now, although I've been pondering who it is since that interview took place, like I said in that earlier post. 
 
Obviously Nekron using a facsimile of Bruce is a great way to get each and every hero to react to him and tether them all to him, hence them not really copse'ifying, likely just being under his control for the time being. 
 
If it turns out that DiDio was lying or misinformed so be it, but right now I'm assuming that Geoff and Grant have something up their sleeves and I'm anxiously trying to figure out what that is.
Posted by Grim

...I think people are being a little to harsh on BN. As far as events have been going with tie ins, this is a cake walk. 
 First of all, there are WAY less tie ins than people are trying to push. Each week, there has been 2-4 tie ins, with 4-12 titles coming out that have absolutely nothing to do with BN. And half of the major te ins since BN has started are special series designed to tie in without screwing over the normal titles (Titans, BAtman, Superman, Flash, and Wonder Woman are all minis. you know, "issue one of 3" type deals. while their normal comics go on as scheduled. Also take into acound that all of the other tie ins are between one and 3 issues long, and not all of them are at the same time. We have dealt with gaps like that before, both when artist/writers switch out/take breaks, or when titles to two or 3 filler stories before they start the next long one. people keep making it seem like BN is depriving them of all Their books for some insane length of time, but thats not the case.   
 Compare this if you will to Civil War and Secret Invasion. the little Civil War banner was plastered onto EVERY SINGLE  normal marvel continuity comic for the duration of the event.. They also started up a few new titles JUST for Civil War (Front Line for example). Invasion did roughly the same thing, except i dont recall very many new titles.  
 The only titles completely overcome by BN are the Green lantern Comics, which have been building up to this for over a year now. If your a hardcore GL fan who hates BN, your the only person with the right to complain... but seriously, where have you been for the last year? As a Hardcore GL fan, you should be the deepest into this stuff and loving every minute of it. 
 
And of course, no one is forcing you to buy very tie in! Just like every other event, you can read the main comic and get the brunt of the story. If you like certain characters, learn to flip through the comics and see if they are in them. if not, you dont need to get it. 
and if your comics is beng interupted, why dont you take that month to branch out to some new comics. My comics store has 40+ new comics every week. and back issues and TPBs. If you dont want to buy the Teen Titans tie in, dabble in something else. It will be back. 
 Idk. I think allot of people on Comicvine give Marvel wayyyy more leniency than DC. But honestly, if you step back an look at it, Blackest Night is trying to appease both Event lovers and Event Haters in a way that none of the other events from either company has tried to do before.

Posted by DEGRAAF

they keep talking about a white light too so that will be cool, htey have basically unofficially said there will be a white lantern
Posted by hpwaz

Its hard to imagine how DC will mend the wounds from the last 2 pages. And..no I'm not reading the book of Black or whatever that journal is called.
Posted by DEGRAAF

no i think fresh03 is right they didnt die so they can come back. The skull used to create batman should be somone that knows batman or has been batman for a time being. Donna isnt dead, just infected. With Hawk gone Dove can move in to a new position and become a white lantern.
Posted by DMC

Event Fatigue eh G-Man? 
 
Maybe in the future. if possible maybe you Babs and a few others should split the event duties since you have to be keeping up with 2-3 events at a time. Granted you might be interested in all of them but after a while......well you know.  
 
Posted by Quest

ya it is to much so many things happen  

Posted by Mbecks14

While i do agree that i am tiring of all the events, Blackest Night is firing on all cylinders and i am absolutely enamored with it! Writing, ART, coloring, inking, etc. All phenomenol.
 
As i was reading this i literally said "Holy $#!%" outloud twice at the two big moments. and that really shows how great this story is. and its keeping me guessing. i sure as hell didnt see BL Batman and the "final scene" coming and i sure as hell have no idea where they're going from there. and i am totally ok with that.
 
i feel like with almost everything im watching or reading, i can almost predict what'll happen. maybe just because i'm older now,  maybe its because i study story telling, or i'm just so accustomed to these types of stories that the plot doesnt change too much, but Blackest Night has really impressed me.

Posted by Media_Master

4/5 is still a great review and I will purchase this issue, but I understand a need for self contained issues.

Posted by G-Man
@DMC: It used to be we'd fight to see who gets to review a particular issue first.  Now it's almost like we fight to see who has to review it.   But I did still enjoy this.  I'm sure if I get the trade later and read it all at once, I'll appreciate it even more.
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Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir

Even this issue made a Captain Planet reference
Posted by RedRyan

I can't really understand why some people complain about being burnt out on big events.Blackest Night has been great so far,lots of shock moments but surely thats what keeps comics exciting.The art of Ivan Reis is fantastic and in most cases the tie-ins to regular monthlies have been very good.It sounds like some people are saying 'I want my comics to be slightly less exciting each month'.The only reason people have to complain is that it costs so much,thats a real world reason I can identify with.

Posted by Moomin123

I loved this issue. Also G-Man, Bruce Wayne's consciousness could be trapped in time, but that doesn't mean that his body can't be ressurected. It's the same with Deadman's body.
Posted by G-Man
@Moomin123: But we've seen his "body" drawing bat symbols on cave walls.

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Edited by spacemonkeymafia

you can only keep the pedal to the metal for so long. still though, this is keeping my attention a little more than "dark reign". and yeah, i'm not reading those back pages either. maybe when the series is finished.
Posted by crazywolf

Funny review. I lol'd a few times. There are lots of these events though. Its time for Marvel and DC to put on the brakes. Let the fans cool off for a bit.

Posted by waruikumo
@Push:  
 
That aint Batman, Kinda obivious,  I would like to see a Batman BC series.  Which I hope is what morrison is working on since hes pretty much only doing Batman and Robin.  Is he only doing BM&R and that co wrote authority thing with Giffen?
Posted by Adam683

I have had mass debates in my local comic shop about Blackest Night, Blackest Lantern is not Bruce, the "Emotional tether registered" is a collection of all the heroes "Emotional" responce to the Black Hand carring around what they think is the skull of the dearly departed Bruce Wayne, i think thats why the fight is in such a small area of DC, is that all the Lanters power comes from or represcents, you see the emotional color spectrem in the Black Lanterns FPV (First person view) as for the last 2 pages what do all the heroes have incommon with each other .... 

 
They are all ment to be Dead. 
As Dean Winchester (fans of the CW hit Supernatural will know him from) said "Whats dead is dead, theres no coming back from that, its not right"
 
 
 This is turing out to be a brilliant read but have to agree with the "POW" in ya face go buy the next issue advertising.