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Best Battles in New Comics: 12/13/13

This week, we're featuring awesome fights from the pages of FOREVER EVIL: ARKHAM WAR, CAPTAIN AMERICA, and CATACLYSM: THE ULTIMATES.

Sometimes this weekly feature shows off characters using great hand-to-hand technique or a variety of cool powers. This isn't one of those weeks... not at all. Instead, this edition's all about the brutal punchfests that went down in Wednesday's new comics. Firstly, two of Batman's villains slug it out in Wayne Tower as Arkham War hits the city. Secondly, Captain America goes all out against a fellow super-soldier. Last and most definitely not least, two incredibly strong characters from the Ultimates universe completely unleash. Once all is said and done, let us know what you think about the fights we've highlighted and be sure to tell us your top three from this week, too.

Did your favorite melee not get a mention? Well, it's possible we didn't read that issue, so be sure to make suggestions in the official Best Battles Discussion Thread from now on. We review that before writing this weekly feature and do our best to get our hands on the issues suggested!

Bane vs. Killer Croc (FOREVER EVIL: ARKHAM WAR #3)

Bane and Killer Croc have faced-off twice before the New 52. The first time, Bane completely humiliated the villain. The second time was far more even, but it was still transparent Bane has no trouble holding his own against the fiend. But this was all before Flashpoint altered everything and both characters have changed a good deal since then. Bane's physicals have been boosted and Killer Croc's... well, his showings still fluctuate, but he's been more powerful since Hush. So, what happens when these two square off in the modern era? Awesomeness, that's what. And the reason these two come to blows is Peter J. Tomasi's ARKHAM WAR. The villains are struggling for control of Gotham. Bane and his forces from Blackgate are up against Scarecrow and various other rogues from Batman's gallery. During the course of events, Bane was told the villains won't bow to him because they don't fear him -- he's not Batman. Well, Bane changes that and creates a Bat-armor of his own. He then sets his sights on his first target: Killer Croc. Needless to say, things get savage pretty fast.

Croc's so eloquent when he fights.

We all know who will be left standing when the melee comes to an end, but that makes watching it all unfold no less fun. Before the New 52, Bane often displayed great skill behind his methods, but the post-Flashpoint version has a clear emphasis on power over technique. It's fitting since he's undergone quite a physical upgrade, and seeing a man of that stature dropping serious skill just wouldn't be fair. The end result is an explosive set of attacks between two dudes who are just throwing everything into their swings and, like I said, it's awesome.

There's no room for banter in this brawl.

Yes, Killer Croc is treated like a jobber here and there, but overall, the guy's actually quite a powerhouse when it comes to street level characters. Instead of displaying raw strength (Bane's got that covered), Waylon Jones utilizes something Bane doesn't have: fearsome claws and huge teeth. He gives a good effort, but ultimately, Bane's not losing this one.

Batman always wins, even when he's not in the fight.

Man, beating him in the face with the bat symbol is just vicious. What happens next, though? Does Bane actually beat Waylon to death with it? Does he pull the infamous back breaker? Does he get Waylon to join his side? Even if someone spoils it for you in the comments, Scot Eaton and Andrew Dalhouse make it look great, so it's a moment you'll definitely want to see for yourself.

Captain America, Falcon vs. Nuke (CAPTAIN AMERICA #14)

Frank Simpson aka Nuke has been going on a bloody rampage in Nrosvekistan and he's doing it because he believes he's under orders from the U.S. military. This obviously looks terrible for the United States (Nuke does have the flag on his face and all), so S.H.I.E.L.D. has sent in Captain America to not only stop him, but also make it crystal clear Simpson's not acting on behalf of the country. Rogers has been trying to stop the bloodshed for hours and he's been unable to put Nuke down. The opposing super-soldier has ridiculously impressive durability (a long time ago, Daredevil hurt his hand trying a nerve strike) and, as you'll see below, even Cap's shield isn't doing the trick.

Nuke's abs > Cap's shield

Rogers promptly realizes he's going about this the wrong way, so instead of throwing more attacks at the tough foe, the Avenger tries to reason with Simpson and make him realize someone's manipulating him. Believe it or not, the heart-to-heart works and Simpson kindly decides not to kill the hero. Leave it up to a journalist to screw this all up, though. The flash of the camera puts Nuke back into a bloodlust as it brings back memories of how many in the media and public opposed the war during Vietnam. He goes after the journalist, but Falcon swoops in to save the day and violently throws the enemy into a tree. However, it's just a temporary saving because after a couple of hits, Simpson turns the tide with his knife. "A" for effort though, Falcon.

One day Falcon will shine. One day...

Cap realizes things are completely out of hand at this point. Not only has Nuke killed so many innocents, but eventually, he could kill Falcon and Cap, too. Because of this, Rogers has the harsh realization that the kid gloves need to come off and in order to keep Nuke down, he needs to truly unleash. Sure, Nuke has what it takes to recover from a shield hit, but what about when Cap doesn't let up and keeps 'em coming? Let's just say Rogers puts this guy's durability to the test.

Cap switches to rapid fire with his shield.

What makes this one particularly interesting (you know, shield smashes to the face aside), is the conversation they have when it all hits the fan. Rick Remender's placing two super-soldiers from totally different eras at odds and naturally, they both have entirely different views on war and the public. It's a good one, people, so go read it.

Hercules vs Gah Lak Tus consumed Hulk (CATACLYSM: ULTIMATE COMICS ULTIMATES #2)

There's a lot of potential for great showdowns when the Ultimates stand against a Gah Lak Tus swarm, but none compare to Hercules happily leaping into action to take on a now consumed Hulk. Zeus' son is quite a powerhouse, but Ultimate Hulk isn't a character anyone should take lightly. The demigod swiftly learns that lesson and admits he's somewhat impressed, too.

"Hulk accept compliment."

Even though the stakes are absurdly high, writer Joshua Hale Filakov has a lot of fun with the super-strong slugfest. The consumed version of Hulk has great banter ("Hulk consume!") and, despite massive grey fists flying at his face, Hercules keeps things fresh and delivers plenty of levity as they trade blows.

"Hulk OOF!"

As Fialkov keeps the jabs -- physical and verbal -- coming, artist Carmine Di Giandomenico does a solid job bringing all of the spreading havoc to life. It's a massive war zone with a helluva lot going on and these panels make sure you never lose sight of that. The fight may not be that long, but damn, it's sweet. I mean, how can you not love the following image?

SO. MANY. PUNCHES.

Herc may be faring pretty well, but his team isn't nearly as fortunate. What happens with them? Is Herc able to topple the goliath or is he consumed? Without spoiling anything, we will say this fight does reach a verdict within the issue. The cliffhanger will absolutely make you anxious to see what's next as well.

Honorable Mentions

What are your top 3 fights from this week? Share them with us below! Also, don't forget to make nominations every week in the official thread or tell Gregg via Twitter.

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Edited by westy206

We need more Hercules everywhere. He is just to awesome to be a bench warmer.

Posted by jwalser3

I really hope Croc didn't get beat to badly...

Edited by Saren

The CSA Sympathizers are called the Hunting Party.

"Come, Croc, let us embrace!" has got to be the campiest line I've seen in a comic in a while. That entire issue was a little campy.

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Posted by BigCimmerian

The CSA Sympathizers are called the Hunting Party.

"Come, Croc, let us embrace!" has got to be the campiest line I've seen in a comic in a while. That entire issue was a little campy.

That issue was pretty bad. Not to mention Bane's physical appearance lol.

Posted by JakeN7

"Come, Croc, let us embrace!" has got to be the campiest line I've seen in a comic in a while. That entire issue was a little campy.

The whole issue was pretty lame. I put the book down and the first thought that came to mind was "that was really dumb."

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Posted by SupremeHyperion

Hercules is great in either universe and does indeed deserve his own series again. The cap fight was average at best (dang Nuke takes the shield off the face like a champ, the same shield that has dropped numerous characters far more powerful... hmmm)

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@k4tzm4n

Holy hell, Ultimate comic fight made the article! Im am so tickled pink right now, I will do the dance of joy, regardless what my wife may think of me.

I know Ultimate verse is crashing, but hope they do it justice more than Ultimatum ever could.... Loeb.... now I feel the need to do the dance of anger.

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@k4tzm4n

Holy hell, Ultimate comic fight made the article! Im am so tickled pink right now, I will do the dance of joy, regardless what my wife may think of me.

I know Ultimate verse is crashing, but hope they do it justice more than Ultimatum ever could.... Loeb.... now I feel the need to do the dance of anger.

I like Ultimatuim. There. I said it.

Posted by Wolverine08

@laflux:

I like Ultimatuim. There. I said it.

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@wolverine08 said:

@laflux:

I like Ultimatuim. There. I said it.

Somewhere Laflux, some poor mother had a miscarriage from you uttering that phrase.

Posted by Rubear

@jwalser3 said:

I really hope Croc didn't get beat to badly...

Despair, for crocs don't fly. Also there was nod to classic)

Posted by youngman_logan96

Where Are Wolverine's Battles when it comes to ruthless battles he is the best at what he does its UNFAIR you didnt put his battles :/

Posted by youngman_logan96

BTW Gah Lak Tus consumed Hulk Reminds me OF the Purple KRANK in dexter's laboratoty

Posted by DedrabbiT

Eh Croc put up a good fight. Hope he comes back for revenge.

Posted by micah

Hopefully Herc's not done with Hulk

Posted by Croi

By Nuke do you mean Guile with the tattoo on his face instead of his arm?

Posted by HushoftheWind

im trying to figure out how Cap was able to put Nuke down with his fist when before all Nuke did was shrug him off. I guess his Shield wore him down enough for Rogers to actually deal some effective blows

Edited by UlquiorraSchiffer

As soon as I read that issue of Arkham War I knew it would be on this list. Been looking forward to it since Wednesday, haha. That fight was brutal and so very awesome!

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Posted by StMichalofWilson

Nice Choices!

Posted by frozenedge

That last splash page in Cataclysm was amazing. Herc is definitely about to get the fight he's been wanting for the longest

Posted by TheManInTheShoe

I'm really glad Romita Jr quit Captain America. This art is a huge improvement.

Posted by TheCheeseStabber

So he hit croc with a Bane-A-Rang ;O?

Edited by Cjdavis103

Killer croc lost huh

.....................

Should i be surprised?

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Posted by Mrgreenlantern

Can we just go ahead and give next weeks award to Scarlet Spider? =p the last issue was the excpetion to the rule

Posted by Super_SoldierXII

Where Are Wolverine's Battles when it comes to ruthless battles he is the best at what he does its UNFAIR you didnt put his battles :/

Graciously absent, as he's mostly been getting his arse handed to him over in his own title.
Heck, healing factor or no, even Batroc gave him trouble.
But, since you asked, there you go;
Enjoy. (Careful what you ask for).
And thank Cornell for making Wolverine a complete and utter jobber, healing factor or no.
Though, I am hopeful Creed got a makeover. Maybe this'll be billed as the "real" Victor Creed ... at long last ... who knows.
Posted by GraniteSoldier

Not going to lie, I kind of like the Bat-Bane look.

Posted by 2cool4fun

I'm not following the other forever evil stuff ( not until they finish, i want to read them at once ) so why is bane dressed up like batman?

Posted by k4tzm4n

I'm not following the other forever evil stuff ( not until they finish, i want to read them at once ) so why is bane dressed up like batman?

"The villains are struggling for control of Gotham. Bane and his forces from Blackgate are up against Scarecrow and various other rogues from Batman's gallery. During the course of events, Bane was told the villains won't bow to him because they don't fear him -- he's not Batman. Well, Bane changes that and creates a Bat-armor of his own."

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Posted by KingWillie

I fuckin wish Croc would actually win sometime. Give him some badass moments please, always liked him...

Posted by New_World_Order

What has happened to mainstream Hercules? Has he gotten his powers back yet?

Posted by youngman_logan96

@super_soldierxii: that was absolutely NAIVE, and i didnt ask a person who doesnt likes wolverine to post a comment

Posted by patrat18

Damn no break for Croc.

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@laflux said:

@super_soldierxii said:

@youngman_logan96 said:

@super_soldierxii: that was absolutely NAIVE, and i didnt ask a person who doesnt likes wolverine to post a comment

Lol.

@jashro44 @laflux @wolverine08

Thought you three in particular would enjoy the irony.

Okay this is the third time a post on comicvine has made me burst out laughing in my University Libiary. Don't make me log off >:)

alright alright,had your laugh guys ? but this guy didnt mention his best battles

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Posted by jashro44

@super_soldierxii: that was absolutely NAIVE, and i didnt ask a person who doesnt likes wolverine to post a comment

0_o Super_soldier is always defending wolverines skills in the battle forums...He's actually a really huge fan.

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@jashro44 said:
@youngman_logan96 said:

@super_soldierxii: that was absolutely NAIVE, and i didnt ask a person who doesnt likes wolverine to post a comment

0_o Super_soldier is always defending wolverines skills in the battle forums...He's actually a really huge fan.

alright know I know my mistake bub,but he doesnt always gets hi arsenal handled to others right?

Posted by jashro44

@youngman_logan96: You mean is he getting his butt kicked in killable? Sadly yes he is... At least in Cornells book. Wolverine hasn't done too much since marvel now began skill wise. Hopefully this will change soon though.

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Posted by lykopis

Why does the DC book (Batman and Bane) have so much grunting and other auditory expressions of physical exertion and reaction? Just a little "unf" or two from the Marvel side of things.

Just a little thing I noticed. I notice weird things.

Posted by youngman_logan96

@jashro44: @super_soldierxii:

so that makes us comrades lol ,i got what ya said plot always makes him look go angry lose his mind and then lose the battle,but hey dont forget battles like the one with URSA major

silver samurai and grey hulk fights

Posted by youngman_logan96

@jashro44: but i agree he doesnt show his skills much in new ones

Posted by SheenLantern

Good stuff.

Posted by BWANASIMBA

I love Croc, but it's hard to take him seriously when all he does is suffer loss after loss. He's the Rhino of DC Comics.

Posted by PapiNacho

I liked JL 3,000 vs JL 3,000

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