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Best Battles in New Comics: 07/05/13

Check out awesome fights from BATMAN, INCORPORATED, VENOM and GREEN ARROW!

It's time again for 'Best Battles' and when it comes to action in this week's new issues, it was definitely quality over quantity. There weren't a whole lot of fights to choose from (at least based on what I read and what was recommended), but I really, really dug the following three and they were easily the ones worth highlighting. This week, we have an emotional and brutal encounter between a father and his son's killer, DC's famous archer absolutely obliterating some goons, and Marvel's most popular symbiote going toe-to-toe with a number of mercenaries.

Did your favorite melee not get a mention? Well, it's possible we didn't read that issue, so be sure to make suggestions in the official Best Battles Discussion Thread from now on. We review that before writing this weekly feature and do our best to get our hands on the issues suggested!

Batman vs. The Heretic (BATMAN, INCORPORATED #12)

Batman finally gets the chance to lash out at The Heretic, the character who viciously murdered his son. He was significantly outclassed the first time he faced the lumbering powerhouse, and Talia al Ghul's ally made short work of Bruce. But now Batman has become... well, Man-Bat-Batman (or Batman-Bat?) and is geared up and looking for revenge. Wayne kicks the fight off by carrying Heretic into the air and then dropped him through a watertower -- a violent yet effective start. Heretic is one tough cookie (the guy hasn't seemed to mind he had an eye destroyed a few issues ago) and gets up, ready for more. Batman finally has his chance for revenge and the two begin a savage melee in the rain.

GFFAAUH!

Batman then activates a feature on his armor which makes him invisible. From here, he unleashes on Heretic and eventually knocks the brute off the rooftop. Heretic's jetpack doesn't immediately activate but he does happen to fall on a blimp. Bruce joins him on top of the aircraft in hopes of pummeling the villain some more, but Heretic takes the edge and rips off one of his wings and then stabs him in the chest with it. Luckily for Bruce, his armor mostly protected him from the attack, but Heretic then reveals his jetpack does indeed work and the following craziness occurs.

Love or hate the style of art, there's no denying how cinematic this page is.

The two go crashing through an office and then plummet into a school bus. Such a fall would surely end many fights, but one between an amped up and armored Batman-Bat and the Heretic? You can bet this isn't the end. But the end is indeed near and the school bus is where Wayne unleashes his final and oh-so-vicious volley of punches.

Yeah, I think those kids will have a nightmare or two after this.

But just because it's the end of Bruce and Heretic doesn't mean the action is over. Immediately after this, Nightwing and Squire join the fray and we soon see what's under The Heretic's mask. If you want to know more, BUY THE ISSUE to find out. Support what you love with your money, Viners.

Venom vs. Jagged Bow, Blood-Spider, Death-Shield (VENOM #37)

Lord Ogre wants Venom dead so he does what any rational kingpin would do: put on bounty on Venom's head. A trio of Spider-Man, Captain America and Hawkeye knockoffs are the first to try and collect the massive price on the anti-hero. Death-Shield strikes first, hitting Venom in the face with his shield. Now that they have the symbiotic hero's attention, Jagged Bow steps up to the plate and he clearly did his homework. Instead of firing generic arrows (which would do diddly-squat against Venom), the villain fires three explosive arrows and then follows-up with a sonic arrow. The coolest part of it all? Venom shrugs it off like a total boss.

Awesomely awesome stuff right there.

"Who is behind that glorious artwork?" I'm glad you asked, random reader. Illustrator Kim Jacinto took over this issue (with Lee Loughridge on colors) and as you can see, Jacinto does a killer job with frenetic fight scenes and all of the madness that goes down. From the symbiote fleeing Flash's body after a sonic arrow to Venom's frightening face, the entire sequence looks excellent. Anyway, back to the fight. Jagged Bow failed to keep Venom down at a distance, so now Blood-Spider will see if he'll have better luck up close and personal. Spoiler alert: he doesn't fare much better.

Flash is stepping up his trash talking game. I like it.

Two out of three mercs have proven ineffective, so how about Death-Shield? Well, do you remember how Venom vs. Captain America went earlier in this series? If not, here's a quick refresher: Venom one-shotted him. Yup, that's right. Captain America got dropped by one punch from Venom. So, if that happened to the great Steve Rogers, how do you think this dude will do? If you guessed "not well," congratulations! If you guessed otherwise, click this link.

Nice try, guys.

Just in case you're wondering what's going on in the final panel, that's Constrictor entering the fray (Lord Deathstrike follows shortly after). He's often treated as fairly ineffective, but writer Cullen Bunn gives the guy a more than fair amount of credit in the following sequence -- a sequence I'm not showing you because BUY THE BOOK. More people need to be reading VENOM. It's good for your health. Okay, maybe not, but it is really enjoyable.

Green Arrow vs. Count Vertigo's Mercs (GREEN ARROW #22)

GREEN ARROW has been a great book, but when it comes to being a hero, Oliver Queen hasn't had many overly impressive showings as of late. This issue completely changes that with a hugely detailed and thoroughly entertaining action sequence. A big group of armed mercenaries vs. Green Arrow? Well, writer Jeff Lemire makes it clear it'll take far more than that to even come close to stopping the marksman.

Green Arrow goes all MICHAEL BAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY on the mercs.

While Ollie spends plenty of time punching and kicking his targets, this issue also shows off all of the new goodies his allies have given him. As you saw above, his explosive arrow would make Michael Bay blush, but it's not nearly as cool as the flaming arrows. Seriously, go ahead and check out their greatness below.

Green fire arrows > boxing glove arrows. Yeah, I said it.

Wow, Oliver just humiliated that firing squad. It's really nice to see him finally stepping up his game and doing things which clearly place him above the rest and make him worthy of being a hero. The book still feels more down to Earth than other titles, but it's nice to have these "the hero is unstoppable" moments every now and then. At any rate, back to more of the archer wrecking the remaining mercenaries.

The worst part of it all? Count Vertigo doesn't give them dental insurance.

I usually only provide three images per entry because I don't want to give too much away, but there's a page in GREEN ARROW #22 I simply have to include. After defeating all of the mercenaries, Oliver finally encounters Count Vertigo. The villain is introduced in a brilliant manner (parts of the panel are falling out of place), but then Andrea Sorrentino and Marcelo Maiolo deliver this truly stunning page.

Magnificent.

Honorable Mentions

  • Batman's Rebellion vs. Superman Cultists (Boxing glove arrow!)
  • School of Five Weapons (Teachers / Students) vs. Vera
  • Batman vs. Riddler
  • Batwing / Fox Mansion vs. The Marabunta
  • BATMAN 66 #1 vs. Your nostalgia
  • Daredevil vs. Mother Nature
  • DEXTER #1 vs. Fans of the show who haven't read the books
What were your 3 favorite fights this week?

Don't forget to make nominations every week in the official thread or tell Gregg via Twitter.

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Posted by GraniteSoldier

Venom takes the top. Jacinto's art in fights was great. Not entirely sure how Constrictor hurt Flash after he shrugged off that sonic arrow, I think he (Constrictor) was getting too much credit and for plot purposes needed Flash to have a reason to run, but it was an awesome fight none the less. I cannot wait to see what happens next month. Venom really doesn't get enough credit.

Posted by batmannflash

venom's fight was good. But I really liked Bataman Inc's fight. it just carries so much weight and meaning of revenge

Posted by kid Apollo

wow that last page from Green Arrow is brilliant!!

Posted by AllStarSuperman

Green Arrow looks amazing.

Edited by Mucklefluga

I think Batman Incorporated 12 must have been the easiest pick to be in Best Battles so far :L

Posted by Mucklefluga

I really wanna get Green Arrow, but it seems to just copy the TV show so it won't get my money.

Posted by Miss_Garrick

Great, Batman. In your pursuit of vengeance (or justice YMMV) you just severely traumatized a school bus FULL OF KIDS!! Want to bet at least three of them will become super villains in the future?

Posted by New_World_Order

Nice

Edited by DonFelipe

@mucklefluga said:

I really wanna get Green Arrow, but it seems to just copy the TV show so it won't get my money.

Nah it's not! Not sure if you're confusing Lemire's Green Arrow with the digital comic Arrow?

Lemire and Sorrentino's comic has nothing to do with the TV series and vice versa - characters and story are quite different. Lemire's not putting much focus on Oliver's private life and family except of his father's death. At the beginning of #17, Oliver has lost all his money and ownership of Queen Industries.

You should give it a try! At the moment GA easily is one of the better stories in the New52; plus Sorrentino's artwork is amazing. It's getting constant 4,5-5 star ratings and battle of the week honors for a reason.

Posted by Xwraith

Andrea Sorrentino is Italian, right? I guess he carries on the tradition of great artists from that country.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

I love the that art in Venom, it's like something Image would put out

Posted by Mucklefluga

@mucklefluga said:

I really wanna get Green Arrow, but it seems to just copy the TV show so it won't get my money.

Nah it's not! Not sure if you're confusing Lemire's Green Arrow with the digital comic Arrow?

Lemire and Sorrentino's comic has nothing to do with the TV series and vice versa - characters and story are quite different. Lemire's not putting much focus on Oliver's private life and family except of his father's death. At the beginning of #17, Oliver has lost all his money and ownership of Queen Industries.

You should give it a try! At the moment GA easily is one of the better stories in the New52; plus Sorrentino's artwork is amazing. It's getting constant 4,5-5 star ratings and battle of the week honors for a reason.

It just seemed to me Lemire was just 'copying' the 'sodes. Episode with Count Vertigo, Green Arrow has Count Vertigo. Series about what happened on 'the island', issues about what happened on 'the island' etc etc.

Posted by Mucklefluga

That Venom art is fantastic.

Posted by DonFelipe

@xwraith said:

Andrea Sorrentino is Italian, right? I guess he carries on the tradition of great artists from that country.

Yes, he's Italian. Sorrentino and Francavilla are the Da Vinci and Michelangelo of comic art. Lol

Speaking of non-American artist, I just read that Brazilian artist Rafael Albuquerque will take over art duties for Lemire's Animal Man; with issue #24 this October. Animal Man, Swamp Thing, Green Arrow are my favorite 3 New52 books by far. Having the American Vampire artist drawing Animal Man is good news. I think, Lemire/Albuquerque will be another great creative team. Can't wait!

Posted by henrik

Daredevil vs mother nature LOL

The Venom fight is great!

Posted by DonFelipe

@mucklefluga said:

@donfelipe said:

@mucklefluga said:

I really wanna get Green Arrow, but it seems to just copy the TV show so it won't get my money.

Nah it's not! Not sure if you're confusing Lemire's Green Arrow with the digital comic Arrow?

Lemire and Sorrentino's comic has nothing to do with the TV series and vice versa - characters and story are quite different. Lemire's not putting much focus on Oliver's private life and family except of his father's death. At the beginning of #17, Oliver has lost all his money and ownership of Queen Industries.

You should give it a try! At the moment GA easily is one of the better stories in the New52; plus Sorrentino's artwork is amazing. It's getting constant 4,5-5 star ratings and battle of the week honors for a reason.

It just seemed to me Lemire was just 'copying' the 'sodes. Episode with Count Vertigo, Green Arrow has Count Vertigo. Series about what happened on 'the island', issues about what happened on 'the island' etc etc.

Lemire's story is not (just) a copy!

If I remember correctly Lemire stated in an interview he hadn't even watched any episode of CW's Arrow when he started working on Green Arrow. He also said he would have long term plans for Ollie including new villains and mythology - see the whole Komodo, Magus, Shado plot.

Count Vertigo - the CW's merely playing with the character's name and past: A drug lord called The Count selling a narcotic named Vertigo. Lemire lets Oliver face the real Count Vertigo in Bulgaria.

The island, visually, also plays a less prominent role in Lemire's story and has only been mentioned very few times. Whatever (rather amazing) happened in issue #5 stays in issue #5 - no spoilers here.

Posted by MeloDet

@mucklefluga: I could see how you might think that given the first arc. Both the show and the comic featured evil archers with a mysterious connection to his father, but that is really where the parallels end. The two archers have entirely different motives, and their connections to his father are very different in nature. Also, you can't exactly fault the book for featuring Count Vertigo, seeing as he is one of GA's biggest villains and that the story lines are completely different. In the show he is just a throw away villain, whereas here he is central to the plot. Give it a try, by issue 21 I highly doubt you'll think that he is copying the show anymore.

Posted by nightwingnerd

Loved the Batman vs Heretic fight!

Posted by bladewolf

Definitely a great week for battles! The GA one was especially great!

Edited by RedheadedAtrocitus

Batman vs. Heretic for sure!

Posted by lifeboy

Not to be gross, but was there a heavy make-out scene between Talia and bats in that comic after all?

Posted by Mucklefluga

@mucklefluga said:

@donfelipe said:

@mucklefluga said:

I really wanna get Green Arrow, but it seems to just copy the TV show so it won't get my money.

Nah it's not! Not sure if you're confusing Lemire's Green Arrow with the digital comic Arrow?

Lemire and Sorrentino's comic has nothing to do with the TV series and vice versa - characters and story are quite different. Lemire's not putting much focus on Oliver's private life and family except of his father's death. At the beginning of #17, Oliver has lost all his money and ownership of Queen Industries.

You should give it a try! At the moment GA easily is one of the better stories in the New52; plus Sorrentino's artwork is amazing. It's getting constant 4,5-5 star ratings and battle of the week honors for a reason.

It just seemed to me Lemire was just 'copying' the 'sodes. Episode with Count Vertigo, Green Arrow has Count Vertigo. Series about what happened on 'the island', issues about what happened on 'the island' etc etc.

Lemire's story is not (just) a copy!

If I remember correctly Lemire stated in an interview he hadn't even watched any episode of CW's Arrow when he started working on Green Arrow. He also said he would have long term plans for Ollie including new villains and mythology - see the whole Komodo, Magus, Shado plot.

Count Vertigo - the CW's merely playing with the character's name and past: A drug lord called The Count selling a narcotic named Vertigo. Lemire lets Oliver face the real Count Vertigo in Bulgaria.

The island, visually, also plays a less prominent role in Lemire's story and has only been mentioned very few times. Whatever (rather amazing) happened in issue #5 stays in issue #5 - no spoilers here.

@melodet said:

@mucklefluga: I could see how you might think that given the first arc. Both the show and the comic featured evil archers with a mysterious connection to his father, but that is really where the parallels end. The two archers have entirely different motives, and their connections to his father are very different in nature. Also, you can't exactly fault the book for featuring Count Vertigo, seeing as he is one of GA's biggest villains and that the story lines are completely different. In the show he is just a throw away villain, whereas here he is central to the plot. Give it a try, by issue 21 I highly doubt you'll think that he is copying the show anymore.

OK, thank guys. I'll wait for the first Lemire/Sorrentino trade and buy that. But then again, that trade could be released in a few years ahaha.

Posted by Hawkguy

I feel like now its my duty to read Venom... It sounds like one of the best books available.

Awesome fights, loving me some Lemire and Sorrentino on GA

Posted by The Stegman

Dayum, that last page of Green Arrow just.....

blew my mind!

Posted by jbholl

This Venom issue was awesome, and although I didn't know it was switching artists I was more than pleasantly surprised. Jacinto does a great job, check it out.

Posted by Nahuel

I seriously believe that Andrea Sorrentino should be drawing Justice League Dark. The last panel of Green Arrow is magnificent. I think I found my new wallpaper!

Edited by StMichalofWilson

The Batman vs. Heretic fight was brutal, but epic.

Posted by Stormmagician

Dat Green Arrow page.O_O

Anyways one of my favorite this week was the Sonic, Mega-man and friends vs. the Robot Masters from World Collide.

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Posted by comicace3

Bats aimed to kill heretic. Like a boss.

Edited by WWAJfan

Dat Venom Fight!!!

Posted by cc1738

@mucklefluga: It's not copying the show. And the elements that are similar are way better.

Posted by CaptainHoopla

Great picks. Would like to have seen an honorable mention for "Deadpool's head vs microwave oven" in Deadpool Kills Deadpool

Posted by Nazab

Batman vs. Riddler? What did I miss?

Posted by New_World_Order

Batman has gone mad

Edited by cgarza12

What's a good jumping on point for venom?

Posted by k4tzm4n

@cgarza12 said:

What's a good jumping on point for venom?

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Posted by Zomboner

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Seriously, this is probably my favorite feature on CV! Thanks Gregg!

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Posted by medulaoblaganda

@batmannflash: tell me, batman is a human being i mean he as the same level of strength like daredevil. why does he take a superman level punches, when he is suppose to die. this is not fair at all. batman is not suppose to be taking a superman level punch or fall from great height like is shown at the top. he is not even suppose to take wonder woman, aqua man, martian man-hunter, and green lanterns punches, because he will die instantly. but due to popularity they are making him take punches from the likes of what i have mentioned which is not fair at all.

Edited by batmannflash

@medulaoblaganda: The Heretic isn't even close to the strength of those people you've mentioned. He's only an enhanced human. Also Batman is clearly wearing a suit in the fight, which makes him much more durable and much stronger. And btw, Batman is stronger than Daredevil. I like both heroes but DD isn't absolute peak human strength. And when Batman takes punches from those superheroes, they hold back. They don't actually try to kill him. They just want to hurt him just enough. Yes, in a real fight with any of them, Batman would die from their punches. But that's never been the case. When has he ever fought a bloodlusted Justice League member? In Hush, Superman was holding back. In Dark Knight Returns, Superman was holding back. Again, you are correct in that Batman is a human being and should die. So you can't say that last sentence you said because he's never been put in the situation of fighting any bloodlusted superhuman similar to the characters you've mentioned. He faced Darkseid didn't he? And he "died." He was destroyed like any other person would (well he got blasted into time but at least they didn't make him straight up survive the Omega beams). Plus, in comic books, human durability is always stretched a little, it's not just Batman.

Edited by medulaoblaganda

@batmannflash: okay i agree with you. am looking for the day superman will punch batman on is face and ends up in a coma. haha. even batman's punches is not even suppose to hurt wonder woman, and Solomon Grundy, but the writers in charge of batman's comic make is punches hurt them which am concern about.

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