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Batman Battle of the Month RESULTS: Deadshot vs. Gambit

The Ragin' Cajun or DC's accurate killer? Only one of them is left standing, so come see who it is and why!

Batman had the month off (come on, the dude needs some rest) and while he's taking some well-earned R&R, a hero or villain close to him will step up to the plate in this monthly segment. The latest one to engage in a fight with someone they've never met before is the marksman Deadshot. We placed him against the agile and explosive X-Man Gambit and had fun speculating who would come out on top. After a week of voting and debate, the Comic Vine crowd has declared a clear winner. According to them, this is a battle Floyd Lawton will eventually lose.

C'est la vie

Gambit's sporting some superb agility and reflexes, so that alone means he won't be an easy target for Deadshot. Remy LeBeau's regularly danced around projectiles and even deflected them with his bo staff on multiple occasions, so the dude is no stranger to being in someone's crosshairs. Even though Deadshot's incredibly gifted with his aim, Gambit's swift nature will serve him well when the bullets immediately begin to fly. On top of that, there's no denying the sheer power behind Gambit's attacks. His ability to send explosive cards flying -- accurately, too -- is certain to be a pain for Floyd, especially if Remy decides to make items in the environment detonate as well.

Remy also has the edge in close quarters combat thanks to being skilled in savate and stick fighting. Plus, he has the option of detonating Floyd's armor as a last resort. That said, the poll was close and understandable so. Even though Gambit has no problem with most gunmen, Deadshot is hardly just another guy with a firearm. His accuracy is superb and he's proven he can shoot down Green Arrow's projectiles -- which means he can potentially tag cards out of the air -- and even ricochet his shots. Deadshot also has a no-nonsense attitude, so unlike with Batman, he has no reason to pull his shots are go for non-lethal ones. He's not holding back. The same can't be said for Gambit. On top of that, his attire means he'll be able to endure a moderate amount of damage before potentially going down for the count. No matter who wins, Deadshot is absolutely going to keep his nimble enemy on his toes. It just so happens that a majority of Viners value Gambit's explosive cards, agility and reflexes more than Deadshot's lack of morals and deadly accuracy. Let's take a look at some of the standout posts that were made in the debate.

Viner Post for Gambit is by Wolverine08

"Incredible match up right here.

On a first glance, I'm leaning towards Gambit for a slight majority when it's all said and done. He's working with the avoidance capabilities to avoid Deadshot for a decent amount of time while he's also trying to set up his offense. He's often rated as being enhanced or straight up superhuman in most official handbooks in regards to his agility, and the aforementioned agility is great enough that he's been able to more or less stalemate Daredevil on a rooftop battle through his combination of agility and skill with Savate. That right there is enough to show that Remy is one of Marvel street level's premier avoidance guys .The guy has caught mini grenade after they have been fired, he's blocked machine gun fire with his bo staff, and dodged rubber bullets with no warning. Simply, Remy is fast. Granted, one could make the argument that Pre 52 Deadshot has tagged and killed foes faster than Remy like speedsters, I wouldn't say those speedsters were working with the avoidance skill that Gambit has at his disposal, and they didn't have the offensive skill to throw Floyd off. That offensive output lies in Remy's cards and his marksmanship. He's able to charge the cards hard enough to be more or less grenade level bombs, and while Deadshot has tanked bullets with his armor, getting hit with one of them would at least stun him. Remy is also working with the marksmanship to give Floyd problems. No, he isn't on Deadshot's level, but he's been able to throw his cards down Sabretooth's throat, and even intercepted Spider-Man's webbing(Which has caught bullets with its speed) using well timed throwing of his cards. Gambit is resourceful with his kinetic energy charging to boot. Back during Fabian Nicieza's Gambit run, Remy charged a piece of gum in his mouth, and used it as a weapon, and he's charged things with his eyes, and other objects in the environment as well. The cards are the main offensive weapon, but he's not limited to them, and that is something that will probably surprise Deadshot. I think the big questions lies in that can Deadshot effectively keep tabs on this guy with great avoidance while also avoiding his damage output that he knows how to use? I don't think Floyd can do so for a majority."

Viner Post for Deadshot is by Saren (and it's a direct reply to Wolverine08's post)

"More or less" is a kind way of putting it ---- if memory serves, that fight was more Gambit and Daredevil hopping around on a rooftop than actual combat. Aforementioned agility was also great enough that Gambit was casually wrecked by Bullseye, someone Daredevil has stomped on at least 4 separate occasions. I don't get how the fact that Floyd has tagged people faster than Remy (and people like Captain Boomerang are better "avoiders" than Gambit by a country mile) doesn't matter, but the fact that Remy has avoided shots from people without Floyd's marksmanship seems to. Has Gambit been dodging shots from people who can identify weaknesses in his body and movements with one look? Who can ricochet shots off multiple surfaces and fire backwards, forwards, upside down and blindfolded and god knows what else? In a regular morals battle where Gambit doesn't know who he's fighting, what they're capable of, or what kind of protection they have, there's no reason he'd employ firepower any greater than he did against Moon Knight, Bullseye, Forge, Captain America, Neo and about two dozen other people he's fought, all of whom have taken hits from his cards and a lot of the time not even been stunned. It's in his nature to test the waters. It's not in Floyd's, and he's actually carrying around mini-RPG's with him as well.

The big question is how long Gambit has to test the waters until he figures out the amount of firepower and ability necessary to take out Floyd --- and the problem with that question is that Floyd doesn't like wasting time."

Fellow Comic Vine writer Corey "Undeadpool" Schroeder also wanted to chime in on this match-up

"A contract on the head of the Thieve's Guild. Not exactly the most shocking of contracts. They've probably pissed off at least half of any given square mile you'd care to name, but he wasn't leaving his island fortress, and the people who lived nearby weren't exactly forthcoming with info. Even after some "enhanced persuasion," no one was giving this guy up. This wasn't exactly Floyd's specialty, information retrieval. He was used to GETTING the contract, knowing they were out, and going...

"'ey, mon frer! You care for a quick game? Heh, look like you could use it!" Floyd was in his "casual" wear, but still had his eyepiece in and he looked over to the man playing a three-card monte game. He wore a tattered cloak and grinned a stubbly grin from beneath it, "Ya look bored. Care for a game?"

"No thanks. I prefer my games of chance not rigged..."

"I ain't no cheat! Just skill! C'mon! I'll double whatcha bet!"

"I don't need cash...I need information..."

"Information I got too, whatcha wanna know?"

..."The Thief King. How do I get to him?"

"Gotta play to win, even info."

Deadshot cocked his wrist gun and aimed directly at the beggar.

"Just play, mon frer, no need for that...you win, I tell ya exactly whatcha wanna know. I win, you leave. Simple?"

Floyd rolled his eyes. He was never precisely a man of his word and saw literally nothing to lose, "Fine..."

The shark was good. Damn good. He shuffled the cards with incredible speed and precision, but true to his word he actually didn't cheat. But Lawton followed easily, his eyes darting back and forth, never leaving the Red Queen and finally he picked it when the cards stopped.

The beggar revealed the queen, "Well done, true to my word..." he stood and tore the cloak off, "Just take two steps forward and there he is!" the card suddenly glowed and he tossed it forward. Lawton fired, but that merely detonated it early. The explosion rocked him back and his vision blurred as he fired at the shape that darted and dodged in his field of view. Lawton was just that good, however, and one of the shots caught Gambit in his abdomen, causing him to twist and roll back. Lawton readied both wrist guns, his vision finally clearing as he stalked about the alleys between the buildings, his ears still ringing, but not so loud he didn't hear the crafty Cajun sneaking up behind him.

Gambit swung his staff hard, but Lawton leaned into it, his profeciency in close-quarters wasn't to be underestimated, and he wrapped his arm around the staff, pulling it to one side and smashing Gambit into the side of the building, firing again, catching him in the shoulder. Gambit slid down and Deadshot took final aim. "Good. But not good en-" Gambit grabbed the staff Lawton still held and it surged with the same energy as before. Lawton was blown back and Gambit smashed the staff into the back of his head. He disarmed him, smashing his guns and, as the assassin slowly came to before a gathering crowd heard Remy say 'Lesse how dese people treat you after how you treated dem, huh?'"

Agree? Disagree? Speak your mind below. Seeing as Spider-Man has been declared the "Character of the Month," it's very possible the next Batman Battle of the Month will find a way to incorporate a Spider-Man character or two. Who will it be? Will it be possible to create an even match even though Spidey has such a physical edge? All shall be revealed when we post the next match on May 26! In the meantime, you're welcome to make suggestions right here in the comments, in the official thread, or via Twitter.

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Posted by Sovereign91001

@wolverine08 well written post, congrats on getting the argument of the month.

Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf

Cajun charm everytime.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

I must have missed this but I don't think Gambit should have won

Posted by TheCheeseStabber

Batman vs Spot!!!!!

or Batman vs Spidey 2099

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Great viner posts I must say.Both users have shown why both characters can win this battle and who may get the majority here.

Posted by patrat18

I must have missed this but I don't think Gambit should have won

Agreed.

Posted by RisingBean

@wolverine08 well written post, congrats on getting the argument of the month.

What he said. Also, you're loquacious.

Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

This was close but it was the right outcome.

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Accurate results

Posted by Wolverine08

I must have missed this but I don't think Gambit should have won

Gambit is just too sexy for you.

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Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

@jonny_anonymous said:

I must have missed this but I don't think Gambit should have won

Gambit is just too sexy for you.

2HOT4ME

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Posted by Jayc1324

Deadshot can shoot his cards out of the air. I doubt gambit can dodge deadshots bullets for long, and he can always just ricochet them and confuse gambit. Deadshot should've won

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Posted by tximinoman

See, this is the problem with putting a killer with nearly perfect aim who uses guns against a hero who doesnt.

Do you want us to be logical or do you want us to say who we want to see winning? Because if we use logic Deadshot kills Gambit any day. Hell, Deadshot kills nearly anyone any day. Unless they have invulnerability or can dodge bullets (or have a healing factor) Deadshot battles should be: "Deadshot gets cover. Deadshot pulls out his gun. Deadshot shoots his enemy in the head. BOOM. DONE".

Posted by cdw101

Boom!!! You dead mon ami!!! This was the right outcome all along.

Posted by kidman560

@wolverine08: ya know Gambit is my top street leveler and im really disturbed i didnt get the Viner Argument for him but then i read yours and i realized you had me beat nicely done man

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New Orleans is celebrating Gambit's victory....... Who dat? Who dat is going beat Gambit? Who dat? Not Deadshot........

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Posted by Wolverine08

@wolverine08: ya know Gambit is my top street leveler and im really disturbed i didnt get the Viner Argument for him but then i read yours and i realized you had me beat nicely done man

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Posted by patrat18

@wolverine08: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Nice job man.

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Posted by The_Kid_Lantern

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

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@the_kid_lantern said:

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

no he didnt, i know Gambit like i know the back of my hand and i was not presented with enough info to make me believe Deadshot could take Gambit.

Spider Man has caught sniper bullets out of the air, anything batman throws/uses on him will appear in such slow motion that Peter could take a nap for 2 hours and then wake up and still dodge it. Batman vs Spider man has never been a fair fight.

Posted by Lurkero

See, this is the problem with putting a killer with nearly perfect aim who uses guns against a hero who doesnt.

Do you want us to be logical or do you want us to say who we want to see winning? Because if we use logic Deadshot kills Gambit any day. Hell, Deadshot kills nearly anyone any day. Unless they have invulnerability or can dodge bullets (or have a healing factor) Deadshot battles should be: "Deadshot gets cover. Deadshot pulls out his gun. Deadshot shoots his enemy in the head. BOOM. DONE".

That's implying that Gambit doesn't blow up said cover to distract Deadshot. I don't care how good of a shot Deadshot is, he should not be able to shoot someone if he doesn't have the proper positioning to actually aim. If morality comes into the battle then I would definitely give Deadshot the advantage. Batman would also lose if morality was included.

Posted by Fetts

Completely agree with Saren. Love both characters, but Deadshot should have won this.

Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

Batman would get ROFL stomped by Spidey. No need for a debate there.

Posted by senglord

I was on the right side of a popularity contest! That had better stats and feats behind it! No one mentions that Deadshot makes it a rule to kill those he is paid to kill if he can. He only kills fodder and other enemies if they come at him or get in the way of his contract.

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@lurkero said:

@tximinoman said:

See, this is the problem with putting a killer with nearly perfect aim who uses guns against a hero who doesnt.

Do you want us to be logical or do you want us to say who we want to see winning? Because if we use logic Deadshot kills Gambit any day. Hell, Deadshot kills nearly anyone any day. Unless they have invulnerability or can dodge bullets (or have a healing factor) Deadshot battles should be: "Deadshot gets cover. Deadshot pulls out his gun. Deadshot shoots his enemy in the head. BOOM. DONE".

That's implying that Gambit doesn't blow up said cover to distract Deadshot. I don't care how good of a shot Deadshot is, he should not be able to shoot someone if he doesn't have the proper positioning to actually aim. If morality comes into the battle then I would definitely give Deadshot the advantage. Batman would also lose if morality was included.

How far can Gambit throw his cards? Because I'm pretty sure Deadshot can shoot bullets from his wrist-gun-thing farther. He just needs to get far enough.

Also, ok, I get it, this are comic book battles so logic never applies but as I said, if logic applies, a guy like Deadshot will kill nearly any hero (and yes, that includes Batman). He's not some scared crook who will get nervous and miss and shit, he's a cold handed assasin who'll have no doubts, no second thoughts and won't miss. As I stated in my last comment, unless they are like Superman, fast enough to dodge bullets (like The Flash or Quicksilver) or have some sort of healing factor... a gun and aim always win against any other skill.

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@tximinoman said:

@lurkero said:

@tximinoman said:

See, this is the problem with putting a killer with nearly perfect aim who uses guns against a hero who doesnt.

Do you want us to be logical or do you want us to say who we want to see winning? Because if we use logic Deadshot kills Gambit any day. Hell, Deadshot kills nearly anyone any day. Unless they have invulnerability or can dodge bullets (or have a healing factor) Deadshot battles should be: "Deadshot gets cover. Deadshot pulls out his gun. Deadshot shoots his enemy in the head. BOOM. DONE".

That's implying that Gambit doesn't blow up said cover to distract Deadshot. I don't care how good of a shot Deadshot is, he should not be able to shoot someone if he doesn't have the proper positioning to actually aim. If morality comes into the battle then I would definitely give Deadshot the advantage. Batman would also lose if morality was included.

How far can Gambit throw his cards? Because I'm pretty sure Deadshot can shoot bullets from his wrist-gun-thing farther. He just needs to get far enough.

Also, ok, I get it, this are comic book battles so logic never applies but as I said, if logic applies, a guy like Deadshot will kill nearly any hero (and yes, that includes Batman). He's not some scared crook who will get nervous and miss and shit, he's a cold handed assasin who'll have no doubts, no second thoughts and won't miss. As I stated in my last comment, unless they are like Superman, fast enough to dodge bullets (like The Flash or Quicksilver) or have some sort of healing factor... a gun and aim always win against any other skill.

The stipulations of the battle were as followed:

  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. Assume they start roughly 60 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc.
  • Both characters have their standard gear.

I have no doubt that Deadshot would easily kill Gambit if he already had Gambit as a target and they weren't starting off on equal ground. The energy Gambit can put into his cards make them very versatile as projectiles. He might not be able to throw them 60 yards, but 60 feet is reasonable. Gambit may be hesitant to kill Deadshot, but I think explosions are enough of a distraction to prevent Deadshot from getting off a good shot before Gambit can take him down.

Posted by karasu_

Gambit is definitely the more cunning of the two, and his abilities have more to offer in this fight.
They should do Deathstroke vs Wolverine.

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I still wanna see X vs. Batman. :-P

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Posted by The_Kid_Lantern

@the_kid_lantern said:

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

no he didnt, i know Gambit like i know the back of my hand and i was not presented with enough info to make me believe Deadshot could take Gambit.

Spider Man has caught sniper bullets out of the air, anything batman throws/uses on him will appear in such slow motion that Peter could take a nap for 2 hours and then wake up and still dodge it. Batman vs Spider man has never been a fair fight.

Batman has taken down the ENTIRE Justice League, and he doesn't use sniper bullets/rifles... so what's your point? Spiderman isn't unbeatable and losers get the best of him all the time. Unless he makes a new suit and gadgets like the last time he fought the Sinister 6 there's no way he beats Batman. Batman carries more than batarangs in his belt, stuff like tazers, acid, smoke pellets, I'm sure he'd have actual gas grenades that do damage, or hell even Scarecrow based fear toxin. If Batman's having a bad day/night and is completely exhausted from fighting some League level threat Spiderman MIGHT win.

Just for clarification, how many times has Spiderman caught sniper shots out of the air? Cause it's really annoying when a character does something once and people act like they can do it anytime under any circumstance. I know for certain Punisher has got Spidey at least once or twice in his many years worth of stories. And how many times has a Goblin cut Pete with his projectiles?

You're right, Spidey vs Batman isn't a fair fight. Unless Spiderman has a symbiote in his pocket or a half dozen clones on speed dial...

~KL~

Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

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Posted by Wolverine08

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

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Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

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Posted by Wolverine08

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

Pft, cocky punk!

Sure, I could do that. I need to gather scans, but I'll try hit you up soon.

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Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen

@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

Pft, cocky punk!

Sure, I could do that. I need to gather scans, but I'll try hit you up soon.

Hey - someone's gotta match your ego sometimes - and my pals say I've got a pretty big ego. It's why I post so many pictures of myself in the IRL picture thread.

I've got Finals in 2 weeks - so if you wanted to do it like... in the next month or so that'd work nicely.

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@kidman560 said:

@the_kid_lantern said:

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

no he didnt, i know Gambit like i know the back of my hand and i was not presented with enough info to make me believe Deadshot could take Gambit.

Spider Man has caught sniper bullets out of the air, anything batman throws/uses on him will appear in such slow motion that Peter could take a nap for 2 hours and then wake up and still dodge it. Batman vs Spider man has never been a fair fight.

Batman has taken down the ENTIRE Justice League, and he doesn't use sniper bullets/rifles... so what's your point? Spiderman isn't unbeatable and losers get the best of him all the time. Unless he makes a new suit and gadgets like the last time he fought the Sinister 6 there's no way he beats Batman. Batman carries more than batarangs in his belt, stuff like tazers, acid, smoke pellets, I'm sure he'd have actual gas grenades that do damage, or hell even Scarecrow based fear toxin. If Batman's having a bad day/night and is completely exhausted from fighting some League level threat Spiderman MIGHT win.

Just for clarification, how many times has Spiderman caught sniper shots out of the air? Cause it's really annoying when a character does something once and people act like they can do it anytime under any circumstance. I know for certain Punisher has got Spidey at least once or twice in his many years worth of stories. And how many times has a Goblin cut Pete with his projectiles?

You're right, Spidey vs Batman isn't a fair fight. Unless Spiderman has a symbiote in his pocket or a half dozen clones on speed dial...

~KL~

lol if Punisher tagged spidey its bad writing, goblins stats are equal to spideys so insinuating that Batman could tag spidey based on Goblin tagging spidey is just a sign of ignorance. i tried to explain this too you politely im done with that now. Spider Man = Superhuman everything, Batman = Peak Human everything. Batman cant even beat Captain America (there have been many debates on this) so how is he supposed to beat someone who is faster, stronger, and smarter than Captain America. . batman is not fast enough to continually dodge spider man where on the contrary Spider Man can and if Spidey gets one hit on Bats its done.

btw batman took out the JL by doing serious prep on them, and having carefully laid out contingencies for them, how would that be applicable to someone he has never met with powers he has never seen. plz do not contact me about this again as indulging you further as to why Spider Man fighting batman would be anything other than a stomp is a waste of my time. i suggest you take a look at the battle callout book and PM some spider man fans since you seem to have very limited knowledge on him as a character.

Posted by Wolverine08

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

Pft, cocky punk!

Sure, I could do that. I need to gather scans, but I'll try hit you up soon.

Hey - someone's gotta match your ego sometimes - and my pals say I've got a pretty big ego. It's why I post so many pictures of myself in the IRL picture thread.

I've got Finals in 2 weeks - so if you wanted to do it like... in the next month or so that'd work nicely.

You don't even lift as hard as me, so stop showing your face around the real life pic thread!

I can probably do it in June.

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@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

Pft, cocky punk!

Sure, I could do that. I need to gather scans, but I'll try hit you up soon.

Hey - someone's gotta match your ego sometimes - and my pals say I've got a pretty big ego. It's why I post so many pictures of myself in the IRL picture thread.

I've got Finals in 2 weeks - so if you wanted to do it like... in the next month or so that'd work nicely.

You don't even lift as hard as me, so stop showing your face around the real life pic thread!

I can probably do it in June.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LIFT - Plus, what're muscles worth without a lovely face?

June works perfectly - I'LL SEE YOU THEN FOOL!

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Posted by Wolverine08

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

@wolverine08 said:

@thetruebarryallen said:

I'm willing to do a CAV against anyone regarding these two fighters - of course I'd be supporting the true winner here; Deadshot.

Loved Saren's post - he pretty much summed up why Gambit wouldn't be enjoying anymore Gumbo for the rest of his days.

Too bad Floyd couldn't sum it up for a win :D

I'd be willing to CAV against you here if you think that Gambit really would win this one - it'd be nice to finish a debate against you after you BAILED IN THE BANE VS DAREDEVIL MATCH

WOAAAAAAAHHH - IS "THE BEST THERE IS" ABOUT TO BECOME "THE SECOND BEST THERE IS"?

*drops mic*

Pft, cocky punk!

Sure, I could do that. I need to gather scans, but I'll try hit you up soon.

Hey - someone's gotta match your ego sometimes - and my pals say I've got a pretty big ego. It's why I post so many pictures of myself in the IRL picture thread.

I've got Finals in 2 weeks - so if you wanted to do it like... in the next month or so that'd work nicely.

You don't even lift as hard as me, so stop showing your face around the real life pic thread!

I can probably do it in June.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LIFT - Plus, what're muscles worth without a lovely face?

June works perfectly - I'LL SEE YOU THEN FOOL!

Bah, the internal words of those whom don't lift!

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Posted by laflux

So this is the reason why @saren won't allow Wolverine08 in the HOF nominations. He's salty!!!

Posted by Wolverine08

@laflux said:

So this is the reason why @saren won't allow Wolverine08 in the HOF nominations. He's salty!!!

He's been scared of my ever since my exponential rise to stardom began. Poor guy.

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Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

@kidman560 said:

@the_kid_lantern said:

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

no he didnt, i know Gambit like i know the back of my hand and i was not presented with enough info to make me believe Deadshot could take Gambit.

Spider Man has caught sniper bullets out of the air, anything batman throws/uses on him will appear in such slow motion that Peter could take a nap for 2 hours and then wake up and still dodge it. Batman vs Spider man has never been a fair fight.

Batman has taken down the ENTIRE Justice League, and he doesn't use sniper bullets/rifles... so what's your point? Spiderman isn't unbeatable and losers get the best of him all the time. Unless he makes a new suit and gadgets like the last time he fought the Sinister 6 there's no way he beats Batman. Batman carries more than batarangs in his belt, stuff like tazers, acid, smoke pellets, I'm sure he'd have actual gas grenades that do damage, or hell even Scarecrow based fear toxin. If Batman's having a bad day/night and is completely exhausted from fighting some League level threat Spiderman MIGHT win.

Just for clarification, how many times has Spiderman caught sniper shots out of the air? Cause it's really annoying when a character does something once and people act like they can do it anytime under any circumstance. I know for certain Punisher has got Spidey at least once or twice in his many years worth of stories. And how many times has a Goblin cut Pete with his projectiles?

You're right, Spidey vs Batman isn't a fair fight. Unless Spiderman has a symbiote in his pocket or a half dozen clones on speed dial...

~KL~

Yeah you must be trolling with this nonsense.

Posted by The_Kid_Lantern

@the_kid_lantern said:

@kidman560 said:

@the_kid_lantern said:

Where is the actual poll results and whatnot? I think Deadshot got the wrong end of the stick...

As for a new match up why not just Spiderman vs Batman? I understand Spidey has the physical advantage, but Batman carries a utility belt full of goodies as well as weapons and tools stashed all throughout his suit as well as a mastery of various forms of martial arts. Where Spidey may be a scientist who developed web shooters, he doesn't carry a lab in his backpack so any smarts he could bring to the table would be out the window other than his power of perception and his spider-sense. And they wouldn't fight each other to the death either, and in the end I think Batman has more of a chance at detaining Spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman may try to web ol' Bats to a wall... but again... all those wonderful toys...

~KL~

no he didnt, i know Gambit like i know the back of my hand and i was not presented with enough info to make me believe Deadshot could take Gambit.

Spider Man has caught sniper bullets out of the air, anything batman throws/uses on him will appear in such slow motion that Peter could take a nap for 2 hours and then wake up and still dodge it. Batman vs Spider man has never been a fair fight.

Batman has taken down the ENTIRE Justice League, and he doesn't use sniper bullets/rifles... so what's your point? Spiderman isn't unbeatable and losers get the best of him all the time. Unless he makes a new suit and gadgets like the last time he fought the Sinister 6 there's no way he beats Batman. Batman carries more than batarangs in his belt, stuff like tazers, acid, smoke pellets, I'm sure he'd have actual gas grenades that do damage, or hell even Scarecrow based fear toxin. If Batman's having a bad day/night and is completely exhausted from fighting some League level threat Spiderman MIGHT win.

Just for clarification, how many times has Spiderman caught sniper shots out of the air? Cause it's really annoying when a character does something once and people act like they can do it anytime under any circumstance. I know for certain Punisher has got Spidey at least once or twice in his many years worth of stories. And how many times has a Goblin cut Pete with his projectiles?

You're right, Spidey vs Batman isn't a fair fight. Unless Spiderman has a symbiote in his pocket or a half dozen clones on speed dial...

~KL~

lol if Punisher tagged spidey its bad writing, goblins stats are equal to spideys so insinuating that Batman could tag spidey based on Goblin tagging spidey is just a sign of ignorance. i tried to explain this too you politely im done with that now. Spider Man = Superhuman everything, Batman = Peak Human everything. Batman cant even beat Captain America (there have been many debates on this) so how is he supposed to beat someone who is faster, stronger, and smarter than Captain America. . batman is not fast enough to continually dodge spider man where on the contrary Spider Man can and if Spidey gets one hit on Bats its done.

btw batman took out the JL by doing serious prep on them, and having carefully laid out contingencies for them, how would that be applicable to someone he has never met with powers he has never seen. plz do not contact me about this again as indulging you further as to why Spider Man fighting batman would be anything other than a stomp is a waste of my time. i suggest you take a look at the battle callout book and PM some spider man fans since you seem to have very limited knowledge on him as a character.

Any Spider-fan will stack some facts like you're doing, and nobody's contacting you [IDK how these forums work], but you're taking this a little too personal. So... if Punisher gets a shot off on Spiderman it's bad writing and it doesn't count in your argument...why? Your logic's already flawed because in any event where Spidey wins as easily as you claim against somebody like Batman... THAT'S bad writing. I honestly think Bats would take down Cap too, but if you're like supreme Marvel fan-boy there really isn't any point in arguing facts. It comes down to preference. I'm sure Batman has SOMETHING in his belt to level the playing field, maybe a sonic grenade, IDK. A sign of ignorance is saying Spiderman is superhuman like I didn't already know that. And really, with all the Clayfaces, Manbats, etc. Batman has faced... I'm supposed to think he couldn't kick some guy's ass with powers based on a spider? Batman has beat superhumans even without prep time.

Getting snippy with somebody and then claiming you were arguing politely is also a bit of a double standard. Get worked up over a hypothetical fight between imaginary characters all you want, it ain't gonna ruin my day.

~KL~

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