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Batman Battle of the Month RESULTS: Batman vs. Snake Eyes

Can the Dark Knight defeat the deadly G.I. Joe? Voting has come to an end and the Comic Vine community has picked a winner.

Last month, Batman was defeated by X-23. This month, Bruce Wayne is going toe-to-toe with yet another deadly and bladed character: Snake Eyes. Did the Dark Knight get stabbed and slashed until he's defeated for a second month in a row? Or was he able to overcome this latest obstacle? Well, the Comic Vine community had five days to think it through, debate and cast their votes. Now that the poll is locked, Batman fans can breathe a sigh of relief. He may have lost last month's battle, but this month, he's walking away with the victory. Although, he'll probably need a band-aid or two.

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The lethal ninja from G.I. Joe received 34% of the votes, but the Caped Crusader pulled in 58%. Meanwhile, 8% thought this fight had the potential to go either way and deemed it to close to call. So, why'd Bruce win? As the debate went on, one key point kept popping up: many people simply don't believe Snake Eyes has endured challenges that are as varied and as difficult as the ones Batman has faced. Now, that's not to say this wouldn't be a good and wildly entertaining fight. Many Viners agreed this would be a battle well worth watching, especially since they're quite similar in many ways. They're both superb with stealth, stunning hand-to-hand fighters, and their physical capabilities aren't far apart. While Snake Eyes has gear that's simple yet effective, Batman has more variety, and, as the fight progress, and that's always going to be a wildcard worth taking into account.

Truthfully, I was hoping the poll would be much closer, but at the end of the day, it looks like more than a few people are walking away from this experience with a little more knowledge on Snake Eyes, and I'd say that's most certainly a good thing. Even if you think one character is the obvious winner, the objective here is just to have fun wondering about how it would play out and hopefully learn a new thing or two about the characters in the process. Anyway, usually the Viner Arguments of the Month are pretty thorough and there were quite a few well-thought-out posts made this week, but we'll give your eyes a bit of a break and highlight two quick and concise arguments that were made for each combatant. They're much shorter than what we usually feature, but they get right to what they believe are the key factors in the battle. Sometimes less can be more, after all.

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Viner Argument of the Month for Batman is by Saren

Batman somewhat handily. It's all well and good to go on about Snake-Eyes' lack of compunctions and stealth and experience and yada yada, but the fact remains that he exists in a universe where the challenges he has to face are far less formidable than the challenges Batman has faced. Snake-Eyes offers nothing that Batman hasn't seen before.

Viner Argument of the Month for Snake Eyes is by Lunacyde

Snake-Eyes....in a long and brutal battle I would pay handsomely to see. I'll expound upon my reasoning later. For now the basics are that the two characters are very similar in a lot of ways. Where there are differences I can see SE having more of the advantages useful to this encounter. Batman's greatest advantages over SE are his overall intelligence, preparedness, exploitation of opponent weaknesses and wide array of gadgets and gear. These qualities will factor very little into this specific battle. Meanwhile Snake-Eyes greatest advantages are his willingness to do anything he must to defeat his opponent, his willingness to kill, and his deadly assortment and knowledge of weapons. These will factor more heavily into the fight and tip the scales in his favor.

Because no one else was able to chime in this month, we'll go ahead and highlight a post that was made for the "too close to call" option, too.

Viner Argument of the Month for Too Close To Call is by Owie

This is one of those fights I keep changing my mind on. It's very hard to "prove" one is more skilled than the other.

Batman is stronger and smarter. He has a much wider range of non-lethal weapons. His basic armor is better.

Snake Eyes is possibly faster, more agile, and stealthier. He has a wider range of lethal weapons.

But who is more skilled? Hard to say. I would argue Snake Eyes, but not by a lot. I don't have anything that shows him being better in any concrete way, it's just my take on who he is. But I would also argue that there is little that proves Batman is definitely more skilled either. In other words, I don't think there are any scans of either of them dong anything in terms of skill that the other wouldn't be able to match.

How does this all go down? Assuming they see each other as real enemies, Snakes will probably start shooting. Batman will dodge. Batman will probably throw some batarangs, and Snake Eyes will throw throwing stars, and they'll both dodge. Snake Eyes does have some advantage from a distance, having automatic weapons, but probably not enough to win. They both have grenades of some sort and would toss them around. Having taken each other's measure, they would either go into the shadows and try to attack by stealth, or just go in and fight. Snake Eyes is probably stealthier, as I said, but I am guessing Batman has enough tech to find him. I'm going to say that kind of evens out and they end up just fighting head to head anyway. Close up, Snake Eyes does have a sword, and Batman doesn't, so again Snake Eyes has at least a basic weapons advantage. Is it enough? I dunno. Possibly. But Batman has his armor, can use his cape defensively, etc. I feel like this is essentially too close to call.

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Check the homepage on March 31st for an all-new Batman Battle of the Month! Wait, a Batman Battle of the Month in APRIL? That's certain to be a serious and balanced one, right? There's no way we'd have Batman take on a dude who eats planets or anything. In the meantime, you're welcome to make suggestions right here in the comments, in the official thread, or via Twitter.

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When will Punisher vs Batman be done? The flames from that should melt something.

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@comicstooge: Snake Eyes has mastered martial arts as well. How many MARTIAL ARTZZ did Batman master? One or two? He isn't in the same league brah.

Somebody lock this thread. Spite in Snake Eye's favor!

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@wolverine08: SE has killed entire armies of canon fodder. How many armies has Batman killed? ZERO.

I rests my case.

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@comicstooge: Yup! The BATWANKERS stole Snake Eye's deserved victory from him! Batwankers and their batwanking...

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@comicstooge: Let us continue this thread!

SNAKE EYEZ WINZ BECAUSE HE AIMS TO KILL AND TOOK OUT STAR SCREAM

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This thread was gold.

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This battle could just about go either way, but I without a shadow of a doubt Snake Eyes wins. The fight will not turn into a str8 brawl, sure they will use all freelance weapons and toys, even a few trickery stunts on each other. Im not sure who's stronger or faster but in a hand to hand combat fight with a weapon of choice Snake Eye takes Batman down. They 4sure test each other at first from a distance but they get face to face, Batman's fighting skills just don't add up against Snake regardless of what Batman is capable of throwing at him.

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there are some feats that snake eyes as done that batman can even do at all. snake eyes is no slouch at all.

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@cadencev2 said:

@comicstooge: you just proved my point. "Better establish" you just said it! Batman wins by default because he lives in a more estblish DC universe. So he wins. That's the point. Forget Snake Eyes feats are just as good. He has less comics. He loses.

I'm pretty sure that Stooge is more or less using the term better established as a synonym for better feats.

Yeah, that's basically what I meant.

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@wolverine08: that's how he should word it. No probs proving he is better by feats.

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@k4tzm4n: really? does guys know nothing about wolverine.

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@k4tzm4n: I know your just reporting what's there. I'm not saying you feel that way.

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@comicstooge: you just proved my point. "Better establish" you just said it! Batman wins by default because he lives in a more estblish DC universe. So he wins. That's the point. Forget Snake Eyes feats are just as good. He has less comics. He loses.

I'm pretty sure that Stooge is more or less using the term better established as a synonym for better feats.

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@comicstooge: you just proved my point. "Better establish" you just said it! Batman wins by default because he lives in a more estblish DC universe. So he wins. That's the point. Forget Snake Eyes feats are just as good. He has less comics. He loses.

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@k4tzm4n: am glad you agreed with me. heh!! what will you say about wolverine vs batman?

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/does-batman-always-win-batman-vs-wolverine/1100-145715/

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@k4tzm4n: am glad you agreed with me. heh!! what will you say about wolverine vs batman?

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@medulaoblaganda: If someone legitimately believes Batman should best powerful cosmic beings in a random encounter, then they're not even worth chatting with.

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@k4tzm4n: the reason why am asking this is that they debate him against cosmic beings and they day batman wins which kinda annoying; for example batman vs spectre, batman vs living tribunal, batman vs galactus, and blah blah blah. am not bothered anyway because i know its impossible for batman to defeat cosmic beings that i have just mentioned. in hulks case, batman should even be able to beat him. hulk shouldnt be affected by batmans kick to the stomach, and a gain it will take plenty of gas to knock the hulk out. batman threw only a gas and kicked him which doesn't make any sense. plot induced stupidity. lol. in super man's case, superman holds back against batman alot i mean alot. i love the way he owned batman in new 52 justice league war, and still supes was still holding back. lool. did batman actually made spectre bleed via kick? am glad people have accepted that wolverine will beat batman yay!!. SWEEEEEET!!!

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@cadencev2 "The breakdown by K4 and viner argument of the week confirm this."

Just fyi, I never gave my opinion. I gave a recap of how the debate progressed.

okay who can batman beat and cannot beat?

There's a long list of characters he can and cannot beat. Who he should earn a majority of victories against is a whole different story.

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okay who can batman beat and cannot beat?

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Garbage bag for one of the windows

Spray-painted doors with the flames on 'em

Michigan plates and my name's on 'em

Baby, Shady's here come on get him

If you dames want 'em

WTP is an awesome song.

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BATWANKERS got this whole Batman battle of the month thing started!

CONSPIRACYYYYYYYYIY!

Shame on you Wolverine08! Getting this entire thread derailed with your conspiracies.

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BATWANKERS got this whole Batman battle of the month thing started!

CONSPIRACYYYYYYYYIY!

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@wolverine08:

Garbage bag for one of the windows

Spray-painted doors with the flames on 'em

Michigan plates and my name's on 'em

Baby, Shady's here come on get him

If you dames want 'em

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@comicstooge: You're biting off more than you can chew with arguing about Cadence about mainstream vs indie comics :)

It's got nothing to do with mainstream vs indie comics, Bruce just has better feats across the board, regardless of anything to do with chi

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@wolverine08 : You go, girl! But you better watch out, you might be threatened with banishment if you don't stop calling them Batwankers!

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Now first of all I'm the boss

I just wanna get that across

Man even my Dentist hates when I floss

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@dark_cloud_: Why thank you mate! I won't let these BATWANKERS get off easy!

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@wolverine08 : I always thought you were an awesome guy, but now...

...ah, screw it. You still are.

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WANKERS!

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Oh yeah:

Silly BATWANKERS everywhere! Batman doesn't always win! Batman can't beat Superman!

I'm the goddamm Batman!

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@comicstooge : I don't remember Batman possessing chi-enhanced moves, so obviously he doesn't have every feat Snake-Eyes does.

Every feat that matters.

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@laflux: But it's what I do best :)

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@comicstooge : I don't remember Batman possessing chi-enhanced moves, so obviously he doesn't have every feat Snake-Eyes does.

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@comicstooge: You're biting off more than you can chew with arguing about Cadence about mainstream vs indie comics :)

Stop Rustling.....

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@comicstooge: You're biting off more than you can chew with arguing about Cadence about mainstream vs indie comics :)

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I think more people felt Snake Eyes should have done better in the polls and arguments than was done here. There was hardly any experts to debate SE here, but everyone knows GI Joe one form or another, and expected their baddest warrior to do better. Sure Batman can beat him, but most Batman fans just wanted to point out how it's Batman and how he lives in DC Universe, so he wins by default. The breakdown by K4 and viner argument of the week confirm this. It's not so much Batman won. It's how he won this one, it feels like this battle was due to lack of debating for Snake Eyes, and more bandwagoning for Batman in this case.

It's not the fact that Bruce lives in the DCU that granted him the win against Snake Eyes. By that logic, Harvey Bullock can beat SE.

It's that Bruce has defeated far better established characters with better feats, he's got every feat Snake Eyes has and 5 feats to one-up them and he has a far greater range of gear.

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I think more people felt Snake Eyes should have done better in the polls and arguments than was done here. There was hardly any experts to debate SE here, but everyone knows GI Joe one form or another, and expected their baddest warrior to do better. Sure Batman can beat him, but most Batman fans just wanted to point out how it's Batman and how he lives in DC Universe, so he wins by default. The breakdown by K4 and viner argument of the week confirm this. It's not so much Batman won. It's how he won this one, it feels like this battle was due to lack of debating for Snake Eyes, and more bandwagoning for Batman in this case.

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Yeah, this thread is getting bookmarked.