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Batman Battle of the Month RESULTS: Batman/Spider-Man vs. Captain America/Wolverine

Which side is taking the victory?

Batman, welcome to the 616 universe! The objective of the Batman Battle of the Month is to test the Dark Knight's skill against characters he has no knowledge of. We all know Bruce's gifted mind, hand-to-hand abilities and variety of equipment means he has the ability to beat a wide array of characters he's previously studied, but what about the threats he's never met before? Can he hold his own and eventually snatch the win? Or will he fall trying? It's a simple yet always fun scenario we ask you to think about, but this week, we decided to switch it up just a little bit. He's still squaring off against threats he's never met before -- Captain America and Wolverine -- but now he has Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man on his side! Why is Peter Parker joining forces with Batman, you ask? It's because he's the Character of the Month, so we have him invading plenty of features. So, which team did the Comic Vine community side with? Well, let's just say they believe the odds are not in Captain America and Wolverine's favor.

Spider-Bat earned 69% of the votes and Captain Wolverine received 25%. Only 7% see this one as too close to call. Why do so many people think Spider-Man and Batman defeat this dangerous Marvel duo? Batman may have his name in the title, but Spider-Man's impressive physicals and use of webbing cannot be overlooked and he's going to be critical here. Not only is he the most physically impressive combatant in the fight, but he also has experiencing bumping into his two opponents. While he has nothing but respect for Captain America, his large physical edge means he can eventually bypass Rogers' superior skill and tactics. He'll likely take some good hits along the way, but when all is said and done, a stronger case can be made for Spidey in that fight. One very good connect is all he'd need to take the edge, after all. Wolverine has the durability and endurance to withstand Peter's fists for quite some time, and this is something Parker knows by now. Spidey's not stupid and he's aware that eventually he'll have to incapacitate Logan with webbing... or else parts of his body will be saying "hello" to those adamantium claws. Simply put: Spider-Man has the potential to earn a majority over either enemy. Whether Batman can beat the opponent he faces is obviously up for debate, but he most certainly has the skill, resources and physicals to keep either occupied while Spider-Man does his work.

Now, this isn't to say team Marvel can't earn a win. If Wolverine faces off against Bruce, it's very possible that the fight will end first with the mutant walking away as the victor. Bruce has the means to eventually best Logan, but in a random encounter, it seems more probable Logan's own impressive degree of skill, durability, physicals and accelerated healing factor will allow him to triumph before Batman realizes he should use one of his nifty magnets. If that Bruce falls, Wolverine will be able to come to Captain America's aid against Spider-Man, and that would make things very interesting. No matter which side walks away as the winners, this would be a fight many of us would happily pay a whole lot of money to witness. Anyway, let's see what some Comic Viners had to say about this melee.

Omnicrono

"Team Spider-man for sure... and largely thanks to Spidey.

However, considering the OP (if you read it in full) I do think Batman would be much more of a factor here than people seem to be giving him credit for, at least against Captain America. All pre-52 and New 52 feats apply for him. New 52 Bats is a physical powerhouse, perhaps even more so than ever before, and if all of his Morrison mental prowess is intact then he most likely will be two steps ahead of any other fighter here at all times. At the very least, he should be able to go toe-to-toe with Cap for a good long while, giving Spidey ample time to tie up Wolvie and then help Bats tag team Cap.

Anyway, that again just goes to say - Team Spidey/Bats has this locked, in my opinion."

Onemoreposter

"Peter is the MVP of this battle. Look to other battle threads. There is no one here that Pete can't beat 1v1.

Conversely, Batman is the weak link here, but only physically and not by much. Batman will be able to hold his own against either Wolverine or Captain long enough for Spider-man to win his match up and come in as back up.

This isn't to say Batman doesn't have a potential win all on his own. Lets not forget his standard gear usually includes knock out gas, tasers, and more. Bats easily has the most versatile standard gear. If Cap and Wolverine aren't completely on top of their game the Dark Knight has a potential win.

Team 1 just brings more to the table. I give them the win 7/10."

Super_SoldierXII

"This fight could go either way. Logan & Steve are definitely at the bottom end of the popularity schtick in this contest on the Vine so the vote was never really in question. Spider-Man and Batman are THE two most popular characters in comic-dome bar none. (Certainly on this site they are in any rate.)

With that blurb out of the way, Batman vs Captain America is, as always in a random, a coin toss. Steve has his shield and his serum. Bruce has his utilities and slightly superior martial abilities to abridge the physicals gap. Those that argue Steve is equally as skilled are, in my opinion, wrong. Just as those who argue Batman is equally as enhanced as Steve are, in my opinion, demonstrably wrong. It's a debate that's raged longer and harder than Superman versus Thor, or I daresay Spider-Man versus Wolverine. It comes down to flavor and personal preference. It really is that even. I've always personally felt Steve would edge it out ever so slightly due to the aforementioned physical superiority. I also feel he has underrated combat feats. But that's just me. At the end of the day, I have to acquiesce that it's 5/5 all the same. Even Steven ('ahem').

Spider-Man versus Wolverine. La sigh. Webbing. Nuff said. Really though. I think 8/10 times Parker wins via incapacitation. I see no reason to assume anything will change herein - especially given the setting. That said, I believe Wolverine and Cap have teamwork advantage. But will that be enough?

Let me argue as though I truly believe Logan and Steve win this. Here's the only way they can IMHO; Captain America has studied how Parker moves and has, effectively, gotten the better of Peter in a fist fight as a result. While we all know how that fight will truly end, Peter idolizes Steve all the same. He'll be pulling his punches. Steve won't have to and he knows it. I'm saying Steve can contain Peter, or at least engage him longer than I believe Batman can engage with Logan due to the difference in dynamic. Peter will pull his punches on Steve far more than Logan will on Bruce. Steve's studied Parker extensively. Bruce knows bump-kiss about Logan and, worse for Bruce, vice versa (SNIKT).

So, if CA can keep Parker on him long enough for Logan to deal with Bruce, and I believe he can, Wolverine and Cap can take this fight by teaming up against the Wall Crawler. Otherwise, they end up webbed up together in an uncomfortably humiliating fashion."

Agree? Disagree? Speak your mind below. Seeing as Moon Knight has been declared as the next Character of the Month, it's very possible the next Batman Battle of the Month will find a way to include him. In the meantime, you're welcome to make suggestions for future battles right here in the comments, in the official thread, or via Twitter.

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Posted by Stealth_Warrior

Awesome

Posted by HushoftheWind

@k4tzm4n i swear if you have Batman and Moon Knight team up, i might have a panic attack. Real talk though, i would honestly team up Moon Knight with Todd (Red Hood), seeing how those 2 are liked as anti heroes equally.

Posted by MuyJingo

I was annoyed I fell asleep so early last night...wanted to elaborate and expand my argument. Figured the thread would be locked around noon EST as a courtesy to west coast folks, dang it.

This was an interesting discussion. A few rabid fans made it slightly hostile, but that can't be avoided.

Truly though, there was never any doubt why Batman and Spider-man could win. Aside from the argument the Spider-man could likely handle them both, Batman is the superior martial artist and fighter out of all 4 and his gadgets/stealth ability should eradicate any remaining doubt.

Stealth, better fighters, super strength, gadgets, webbing, long range attacks...Batman and Spider-man pretty much had all the advantages.

A great discussion and team up though. Thanks k4tzm4n.

Posted by reaverlation

Respect to @super_soldierxii on Viner AotW and defense on Logan/Steve

Edited by StMichalofWilson

Interesting results

Posted by RustyRoy
Posted by Onemoreposter

Hey, they used my post. Woot...lol...

Posted by Experio

Deserving winners

Posted by Avilon

Anybody else have the feeling that there might be some more hero worship coming from the spider towards Batman after this fight/ or at least a slight annoyed Caped Crusader for the remainder of the night?

Posted by LuciusTheEternal

I surprise this could be considered a realistic match. The poll seems right, Spider Man could take the duo by himself honestly, with Batman as a partner, epic win.

Posted by Jayc1324

This ended exactly how it should have.

Posted by AmazingWebHead

69%? Giggity.

Posted by micah

Surprising results.

Posted by GraniteSoldier

Although I voted for Spidey and Bats myself and expected the outcome, the poll results aren't what's important to me. I personally felt some of the arguments against lowballed Logan and Steve a bit, making it seem Peter and Bruce simply walk all over them, which simply isn't true. This would be a very good fight to behold.

Posted by Super_SoldierXII

Although I voted for Spidey and Bats myself and expected the outcome, the poll results aren't what's important to me. I personally felt some of the arguments against lowballed Logan and Steve a bit, making it seem Peter and Bruce simply walk all over them, which simply isn't true. This would be a very good fight to behold.

100% agree.

After having engaged in this debate, I think there might be a bit of a lack of knowledge on Steve in particular on the Vine. I have no problem seeing Spidey and Bruce walk away with the win, as the odds of them winning via incap are pretty good, especially given the setting. But damn, they by absolutely no means walk all over Wolverine and Captain America.The bias does not surprise me overly much, as there are a ton of Spidey and Bat fans on this site, especially so the past few years, but still ...

It's a close fight.

Posted by MuyJingo

Although I voted for Spidey and Bats myself and expected the outcome, the poll results aren't what's important to me. I personally felt some of the arguments against lowballed Logan and Steve a bit, making it seem Peter and Bruce simply walk all over them, which simply isn't true. This would be a very good fight to behold.

I really don't think it would. I think team 1 had too many advantages in this case.

Not to say that Logan and Steve are not a threat...but with the restraints of this particular battle, team 1 has a clear victory. They only have to be briefly knocked out, which I see happening a lot quicker with Spider-man's strength, spider sense, webbing and Batman's gadgets and martial arts skill.

Posted by Super_SoldierXII

Respect to @super_soldierxii on Viner AotW and defense on Logan/Steve

Thank you sir.

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Posted by Wolverine08

@muyjingo: They wouldn't have won through knockout as neither is really capable of knocking Wolverine, team pretty much got the win mostly through Web incap from Peter.

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Posted by Pokeysteve

New 52 feats included too? I didn't see that before. There's a chance Bruce tries to nab Cap's shield with magnet trick and ends up catching himself a Wolverine.

Posted by Vaeternus

I agree with the results, I mean Bats and Spidey=far smarter team that's for sure lol.

Posted by Super_SoldierXII

I agree with the results, I mean Bats and Spidey=far smarter team that's for sure lol.

Rogers is on their level with regards battle strategy and smarts. He's not an inventor or a scientist, but his intellect is enhanced and insofar as implementing strategy on the battlefield, there are few better.

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@super_soldierxii: Wolverine and Rogers aren't "dumb" by any means, but overall smarts Bats and Spidey definitely have the edge with the more keen mind. More then Cap and Logan from what I've seen over time. To be fair since Captain A is enhanced as you said, not to take credit away but that's kind of fake if you think about it(meaning not natural) Pete and Bruce were always smart, just born that way.

Caps and Wolverine's seems more strategic and instinctual, where as Batmans and Spidey's are more overall, detective and science. Of course Bats has strategized too at times.

Posted by RisingBean

@muyjingo: You're one of those guys SSXII was noting who doesn't know enough about Steve and lowballs. Just sayin'.

@super_soldierxii: Congrats.

Posted by MuyJingo

@muyjingo: You're one of those guys SSXII was noting who doesn't know enough about Steve and lowballs. Just sayin'.

@super_soldierxii: Congrats.

No, I'm really not. Spent more than enough time arguing about Cap's physicality to be overtly familiar with the best feats Cap fans have got to show.

I consider him equal to Batman, ever so slightly above perhaps. Certainly not superhuman. I hardly think that is lowballing.

Posted by Super_SoldierXII

@risingbean:

Can of worms Mr. Bean. Can of worms. Take a deep, calming breath, slowly turn around, and walk away toward healthier and more peaceful vistas. :)

And thanks for the congrats.

Posted by ULTRAstarkiller

Great. Batman always wins lol.

Posted by Wolverine08

@muyjingo said:

@risingbean said:

@muyjingo: You're one of those guys SSXII was noting who doesn't know enough about Steve and lowballs. Just sayin'.

@super_soldierxii: Congrats.

No, I'm really not. Spent more than enough time arguing about Cap's physicality to be overtly familiar with the best feats Cap fans have got to show.

I consider him equal to Batman, ever so slightly above perhaps. Certainly not superhuman. I hardly think that is lowballing.

You mean denying feats you don't like and deeming them PIS while using high end feats for Batman to make him out to be Steve's physical equal like you did in your blog?

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Posted by Super_SoldierXII

@muyjingo said:

@risingbean said:

@muyjingo: You're one of those guys SSXII was noting who doesn't know enough about Steve and lowballs. Just sayin'.

@super_soldierxii: Congrats.

No, I'm really not. Spent more than enough time arguing about Cap's physicality to be overtly familiar with the best feats Cap fans have got to show.

I consider him equal to Batman, ever so slightly above perhaps. Certainly not superhuman. I hardly think that is lowballing.

You mean denying feats you don't like and deeming them PIS while using high end feats for Batman to make him out to be Steve's physical equal like you did in your blog?

Oops. Now you've done it.

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Posted by MuyJingo

Funny. That's the same double standard I recall Cap fans having.

Some even got called out on their behaviour by another Cap fan since it made him ashamed.

Posted by Fallschirmjager

Didn't even vote, fatigued of Spidey v Wolvrine threads. Heh.

Should have teamed them up instead :p

Posted by Shawnbaby

Didn't even vote, fatigued of Spidey v Wolvrine threads. Heh.

Should have teamed them up instead :p

Spider-Man and Wolverine vs Captain America and Batman?

That's not even close to a fair fight. Spidey Solos. Wolvie Solos.

Posted by Fallschirmjager

@fallschirmjager said:

Didn't even vote, fatigued of Spidey v Wolvrine threads. Heh.

Should have teamed them up instead :p

Spider-Man and Wolverine vs Captain America and Batman?

That's not even close to a fair fight. Spidey Solos. Wolvie Solos.

I didn't say vs these two. I just meant team them up together against someone else...obviously that would be a unfair match.

Posted by ptigrusmagus

The ol popularity argument, those shit comments shouldn't be posted

Posted by jashro44

@shawnbaby said:

@fallschirmjager said:

Didn't even vote, fatigued of Spidey v Wolvrine threads. Heh.

Should have teamed them up instead :p

Spider-Man and Wolverine vs Captain America and Batman?

That's not even close to a fair fight. Spidey Solos. Wolvie Solos.

I didn't say vs these two. I just meant team them up together against someone else...obviously that would be a unfair match.

But this was batman battle of the month so batman would have had to be there.

Posted by Fallschirmjager

@jashro44: Give him prep and a good friend :p

Posted by GraniteSoldier

@granitesoldier said:

Although I voted for Spidey and Bats myself and expected the outcome, the poll results aren't what's important to me. I personally felt some of the arguments against lowballed Logan and Steve a bit, making it seem Peter and Bruce simply walk all over them, which simply isn't true. This would be a very good fight to behold.

100% agree.

After having engaged in this debate, I think there might be a bit of a lack of knowledge on Steve in particular on the Vine. I have no problem seeing Spidey and Bruce walk away with the win, as the odds of them winning via incap are pretty good, especially given the setting. But damn, they by absolutely no means walk all over Wolverine and Captain America.The bias does not surprise me overly much, as there are a ton of Spidey and Bat fans on this site, especially so the past few years, but still ...

It's a close fight.

Agreed. I think people just view Cap as the "star-spangled man" and don't really give him the props he deserves. I don't see how anyone could be well educated on all four combatants, especially in the teams they're on, and call this a stomp. Congrats on your props from AOTW.

Posted by vandinejd_1991

I call bull crap on Bats and Spidey win. If Wolverine gets his berserker on no amount of gadgets from Batman's utility belt or webbing could stop him. He could take them out both if he truly was trying and got angry. Also considering that Batman llost against Wolverine, and tied against Cap back when this was "Does Batman Always Win?" should show viewers how this fight will go. I also don't think Spiderman's physicals are all compared to Wolverine's claws and Cap's shield.

Posted by jashro44

I call bull crap on Bats and Spidey win. If Wolverine gets his berserker on no amount of gadgets from Batman's utility belt or webbing could stop him. He could take them out both if he truly was trying and got angry. Also considering that Batman llost against Wolverine, and tied against Cap back when this was "Does Batman Always Win?" should show viewers how this fight will go. I also don't think Spiderman's physicals are all compared to Wolverine's claws and Cap's shield.

I don't see how wolverine going berserk stops him from being webbed up....

Posted by Shawnbaby

I call bull crap on Bats and Spidey win. If Wolverine gets his berserker on no amount of gadgets from Batman's utility belt or webbing could stop him. He could take them out both if he truly was trying and got angry. Also considering that Batman llost against Wolverine, and tied against Cap back when this was "Does Batman Always Win?" should show viewers how this fight will go. I also don't think Spiderman's physicals are all compared to Wolverine's claws and Cap's shield.

Yes. Batman would lose against Wolverine and he tied Cap.

Lucky for him his partner is someone that can take a majority against either of them.

Posted by CyberWarrior

What did you expect people? DC's and Marvel's most popular characters together...

Edited by Lvenger

Damn wish I could have posted more on this one but I was on holiday. Still I agree with the result and with the view that Captain America and Wolverine were underrated in this match up. Granted, Spider-Man and Batman have a better chance of winning due to incapacitation and Spider-Man as the MVP but Captain America's knowledge of Peter and Wolverine's well rounded attributes were close factors in turning the tide. If Spidey had fought Cap whilst Batman tangled with Logan, there's a good chance that the fight could have switched to Cap and Wolvie's favour. But there was some great debating going on even if the votes weren't representative of how close the match would be. Major kudos Gregg for this Battle of the Week!

Posted by Spiderman1997

@laflux Come on dude let's celebrate. We won in a good ol' stomp.

Posted by comicace3

Just as I expected.

Edited by swanington

anyone who honestly thinks spiderman could take on wolverine and cap by himself is, quite frankly, out of their mind. here's some untrained kid, who pretty much takes selfies for a living, versus 2 highly trained, highly capable soldiers, one of whom basically won WW2 singlehandedly, the other who get hired to fight the deadliest threats on the face of the earth (ie. Hulk, Nitro, etc...) that would blow away Parker's stupid face in a second.

"Oh No! Please don't tie me up TEMPORARILY with your homemade goop!"

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