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Batman Battle of the Month: Batman vs. Snake Eyes

A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS! Will the Dark Knight overcome his latest opponent or will he go down swinging? The winner will be determined by YOU, so get in here and vote!

A new month has begun and that can only mean one thing: it's time to put Batman's skills to the test. We usually come up with Bruce Wayne's next battle on our own, but this month's match has been determined by the community. Snake-Eyes took a huge lead over quite a few other characters in the poll, so why not simply give the people what they want, right?

Does DC's legendary hero have what it takes to earn a majority of victories over the deadly dude from G.I. Joe? Well, that'll be determined by you. Yes, you. Voting and debate for this fight will remain open until Friday morning (ET), so that gives you roughly four full days to think about how this fight would go down. And, if you don't have all the facts about one (or both) of these combatants, then that gives you more than enough time to research them or at least read the ongoing debate. When you're ready, dive into the poll thread and give the Comic Vine crowd a good dose of your mind.

CLICK HERE TO VOTE!

Match Rules

  • Combatants are in character (aka morals apply for both).
  • This is a random encounter (aka no prep/prior knowledge for either).
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. Assume they start roughly 40 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc.
  • Both characters have their standard gear.
  • Incapacitation, knockout or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too.
  • Just to clarify: Batman has his New 52 gear, however, his skill feats from the pre-52 era can be taken into account since he's supposed to be as skilled as he once was. Plus, that just makes things more fun to speculate, right?
  • Hey, you know what would be really cool? Treating everyone else in the debate with respect. If you think someone's saying something that just isn't true, go ahead and stick to the facts to point out why. There's no need at all to drop insults just because you disagree with someone. Seriously, this is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging.
  • If you think the poll isn't going how it should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than complaining and name calling. Just saying.
  • One more thing: you don't need to write an essay to be selected as the Viner Argument of the Week. Sometimes concise posts can be way more effective than a flood of paragraphs.

Viners, you have the week to research, debate and vote! This means there's no reason to vote right away if you don't have all of the info you need to make an educated decision. Check the homepage Friday for an updated article with the following:

  • Thoughts from the staff.
  • A Viner Argument for both characters (can't include scans and must be in the poll thread).
  • If we're lucky, blurbs from industry talent.

Feel free to make future "Batman: Battle of the Month" suggestions in the comments below or via Twitter!

49 Comments
Posted by medulaoblaganda

of course batman wins via smoke bombs, batrangs, in fact any thing that batman has in his utility belt. what does snake eyes has?

Posted by StMichalofWilson

This will be interesting!

Posted by SuperFan_55

Batman would destroy Snake Eyes based off the fact G.I. Joe is terrible comic/series/movie

Edited by Lunacyde

@medulaoblaganda:

So Batman is going to take out Snake-Eyes with smoke pellets? Even though a rebreather is a standard part of Snakes mask? And Batarangs are going to do what to someone who dodges bullets regularly? Not to mention even if a batarang did connect, what is it going to do to someone who has been blown up, stabbed, slashed, beaten, electrocuted, tortured and keeps on going?

Also what does Snake-Eyes have? He has a sword that is nigh unbreakable and cuts through solid steel like butter, he has an assortment of gun and knives, throwing weapons, grenades, and is an expert with explosives. He's a master of basically all melee weapons on earth so anything he can get his hands on is a deadly instrument.

Posted by micah

Snake Eyes for the win, he has an arsenal just as dangerous as Batmans:

1911 Colt 45 Caliber Pistol

A no nonsense handgun for any combat zone. Range: 55 yards, Ammo: .45, Mag: 7 rounds, Muzzle Velocity: 825 ft per sec. A magazine fed, semi automatic pistol with a Mag of seven rounds and one in the chamber for a maximum of eight rounds at the ready. Manufactured extremely well and endures most harsh conditions. This firearm is usually carried on Snake Eyes thigh in a holster.

M67 Hand Grenades

The M67 weighs fourteen ounces in total and has a safety clip to prevent the pin on the grenade from being pulled accidentally. The pin prevents the lever, or "spoon" on the grenade from flipping off and arming the fuse on the grenade. It has a three second fuse that ignites explosives packed inside a round body. Steel fragments (not to be confused with shrapnel) are provided by the grenade body and produce an injury radius of 15 meters (45 ft), with a fatality radius of 5 meter (15 ft), though some fragments can disperse as far out as 250 meter (820 ft.) Snake Eyes usually carries three of these grenades on a harness strap over his chest.

CUMA Tak-RI Knife

Combined Universal Martial Applications (CUMA) is a Black Traction coated, thirteen and a half length Tactical / Combat knife with a Micarta handle, its blade made out of 1095 Carbon Steel and designed by Kung Fu Master, Waysun Johnny Tsai. Snake Eyes carries this lethal blade in a Ballistic Nylon sheath located on the back of his chest/back harness to allow quick access with his left hand as the right pulls the sword.

Shuriken

The Shuriken is a traditional Japanese concealed weapon that was generally used for throwing, and sometimes stabbing or slashing. They are sharpened hand-held blades. Shuriken is the name given to any small-bladed object, while shaken is traditionally used to indicate the well-known "Throwing star" or "Ninja Star." Snake Eyes carries several of these weapons at any given time, concealed in his cargo pockets.

Kunai

A kunai is a Japanese tool. Two variations are the short kunai and the big kunai. it is a good example of a very basic tool which, in the hands of a martial arts expert, could be used as a multi-fictional weapon. It is commonly associated with the Ninja, who used it to gouge holes in walls. Snake Eyes holds these tools in his varies cargo pockets.

Multi-Purpose Pouches / Cargo Pockets

Snake Eyes usual uniform, is strapped with multi-use pouches to carry any number of portable devices and/or tools. Located on his left thigh, he carries several magazines for his firearm.

Uzi Submachine Gun

The Uzi is a family of the Israeli open-bolt, blowback-operated submachine gun. It was one of the first weapons to use a telescoping bolt design which allows the magazines to be housed in the pistol grip for a shorter weapon. Range: 280 yards, Ammo: 9mm, Mag: 50 rounds, Muzzle Velocity: 1312 ft per sec, Rate of Fire: 600 rounds a minute. While Snake Eyes has been known to carry this firearm with a sling, he generally carries this weapon tightly on the back of his belt with two snap straps. After deployed and used, Snake Eyes can clip this weapon to his Chest harness with the Chalker Sling and re-stow it later on his belt later.

Mikimoto Sword

A legendary Arashikage blade, forged of Onihashi laminated steel are considered for all intents and purposes, unbreakable. Snake Eyes usually carries one sword in a scabbard on his back. At times however, he is known to carry two.

1932 Wehrmacht Compass

A German crafted navigational instrument that shows directions in a frame of reference that is stationary relative to the surface of the Earth. The frame of reference defines the four cardinal directions - North, South, East, and West. However, its most important contents to Snake Eyes, is a note given to him by friend, confidant, and maybe more, fellow G.I. Joe, Scarlett that read - "S- I want you to know that I am by you at every step. It's good to know that you have someone who cares. Strength and Love- Red"

Lock Pick Set

Lock Picking is the art of unlocking a lock by analyzing and manipulating the components of the lock device without the original key. In addition, ideal lock picking should not damage the lock itself, allowing it to be rekeyed for later use. Snake Eyes carries a Lock Pick Set beneath a fake skin that can be located anywhere on his body.

Posted by micah

Snake Eyes is a Ninja of the Arashikage clan and is the most effective warrior they have ever produced aside from possibly Storm Shadow. Snake Eyes is a master martial artist, elite assassin and an expert Commando warrior. He is known for conducting raids all his own against Cobra, single handedly taking down their strongholds.

He is capable of flawlessly fighting blind, superb Close Quarters Combat (CQC), Lock Picking, unbelievable athletics, and possesses an uncanny awareness, and remarkable balance. He tirelessly accepts mission after mission, Snake Eyes is a warrior in every sense of the word. Fellow G.I. Joe, Scarlett has referred to Snake Eyes as a 3-Bravo-0, Baddest Butt-Kicker Bar None.

Strength

Snake Eyes has been known to shatter rock with his bare hands, and head-butt a Cobra soldier with enough force to shatter his fully reinforced helmet, and lunging long distances with no artificial aid.

Speed

Snake Eyes consistently speed blitz's his oppositions (striking just before they can pull the trigger, even with leg injuries sustained), dodge bullet fire (even from aircrafts), and has been seen running faster than a motorcycle to catch the driver. He has disappeared in plain sight.

Qi/Ki Sense

Snake Eyes is capable of sensing any individuals Qi/Ki energy and see if they are hostile.

Blood Control

He can control his own blood flow, and has been known to use this technique to fake his own death.

Psychological Control

Snake Eyes is impervious to mind control. The Arashikage has trained Snake Eyes to control his mind as well as his body. Taught mental combat and the ability to recognize those forces that, for good or ill, must be stopped at all costs.

Precision

Possesses the ability to throw any object with deadly surgical accuracy. He is known to throw knives, swords, and Shuriken, but has been know to improvise, even using his own firearms once they have run out of bullets. His marksmanship is remarkable, as he rarely misses gunfire.

Indomitable Will

Snake Eyes is known for accomplishing tasks regardless of his physical condition. Even finishing a mission with evidence broken bones, contusions, burns, fractures, bullet wounds, blood loss, exhaustion, and being ill all at once. He has resisted torture and has proven to be impervious to mind control. Snake Eyes simply never gives up and never gives in.

Posted by BetaRaybdw

of course batman wins via smoke bombs, batrangs, in fact any thing that batman has in his utility belt. what does snake eyes has?

NO WAY Batman wins. Snake Eyes is a stone cold efficient killer. Snake Eyes' standard load: Sword, knife, Sub-Machinegun & Handgun (with plenty of ammo), Hand grenades and plastic explosives. As soon as Snake Eyes determines that Batman is a threat he will kill him as quickly and efficiently as possible most likely using firearms or explosives. And btw, don't bring a batarang to a sub-machinegun fight, Snake Eyes has shot multiple throwing stars and knives out the air. Snake Eyes is not like Joker or Riddler, he is not going to monologue (he can't talk anyway), he is just going to act.

Posted by AllStarSuperman

"Seriously, this is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging."

Posted by GraniteSoldier

Snake Eyes. I'll elaborate after work.

Posted by PabloGdeAnda

@lunacyde said:

@medulaoblaganda:

So Batman is going to take out Snake-Eyes with smoke pellets? Even though a rebreather is a standard part of Snakes mask? And Batarangs are going to do what to someone who dodges bullets regularly? Not to mention even if a batarang did connect, what is it going to do to someone who has been blown up, stabbed, slashed, beaten, electrocuted, tortured and keeps on going?

Also what does Snake-Eyes have? He has a sword that is nigh unbreakable and cuts through solid steel like butter, he has an assortment of gun and knives, throwing weapons, grenades, and is an expert with explosives. He's a master of basically all melee weapons on earth so anything he can get his hands on is a deadly instrument.

I think I'm gonna vote for Batman for many (I think) intelligent reasons but, yeah, what this guy said.
Also, "Batman takes Snake Eyes with smoke pellets". Snake Eyes is a master ninja dude, smoke & stealth benefits them both, not just Batman.

I'm gonna go with Batman on the grounds of his drive to do whatever it takes to win (except killing of course), and his more awesome and versatile gear.
I think if this was a death match Snake Eyes would have a much better chance, but as Katzman said, morals are on, which means the ninja isn't gonna kill some random dude in a cape who he's just beggining to understand while they fight.
I say Batman wins, with a lot of blood loss and some broken bones.

Posted by entropy_aegis

Snake Eyes. I'll elaborate after work.

Looking forward to it.

Posted by medulaoblaganda

@lunacyde: ohh really? i didn't know that. then that means snake eyes win the battle, because i watch g i joe animated series and i saw snake eyes performers in the series. he is very fast, and he is an expert swords man with an unparalleled hand to hand combat. he is also very very smart even though he doesn't talk. every thing batman does snake eyes can do. lol should i say better?

Posted by Lunacyde

@pablogdeanda:

I respect your thoughtful response, but as someone knowledgeable about Snake-Eyes I must say that it won't matter that much that Batman is some random guy he doesn't know. If he perceives Batman as an enemy combatant and a threat he will do what is necessary to take him down and he will not for a second hesitate to kill him.

Posted by Captain13

Edited by PabloGdeAnda

@lunacyde: alright, I believe you and I must say, I need to research Snake Eyes more.

I just thought that for Snake Eyes, a new combatant of which he doesn't know anything isn't the same as Cobra soldiers/enemies, which I assume they have confirmed enemy status and able to kill, as he's a soldier.
And yeah, if Snake Eyes won't hesitate to kill, then I think Bats is dead unless he can escape, which also means Snake Eyes wins.

Edited by mikesterman

I think batman should pull a win... he's dealt with worse.

Edited by SHAZAM117

Have always loved Snake Eyes since I was a kid, but the Batman should take him after an epic duel

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Posted by tximinoman

Batman.

I see it this way, if his opponent has powers... Batman is in trouble, if he's a regular guy Batman wins (and it really doesn't matter how trained his opponent is).

Edited by GodDamnIronMan

I think Batman'll take it, eventually...

Just try to picture the scenario, how surprise would Batman and SnakeEyes be when they find themselves so evenly match.

Oh boy, just make a god damn movie about it already!

Posted by Devil_Driver

Snake eyes is every bit as skilled as Batman there is no reason that batman should get an autowin just because he is batman, that being said I can see good arguments being made for either combatant and I can't wait to see the back and forth debate by more knowledgeable viners.

Posted by johnny_blaze

Another popularity contest.

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Edited by Bad_People

of course batman wins via smoke bombs, batrangs, in fact any thing that batman has in his utility belt. what does snake eyes has?

Snake-Eyes has guns and hand-grenades.

Posted by k4tzm4n

Another popularity contest.

  • If you think the poll isn't going how it should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than complaining and name calling. Just saying.
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Posted by medulaoblaganda

@bad_people: i already accepted that snake eye wins, because he is much faster and he can dodge pretty much every thing batman throws at him. snake eye might not be as popular as batman, but snake eyes still wins.

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Posted by Perfect 10

@micah: THIS.

snake eye for the win but as usual we know who the votes will go to

Edited by medulaoblaganda

@perfect_10: haha that true! but wait... you might be wrong though! lol

Posted by Perfect 10

@medulaoblaganda: hope so but based on the results so far doesnt look like it.

Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse

Batman.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@micah: THIS.

snake eye for the win but as usual we know who the votes will go to

Tell that to X-23 :P

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Posted by medulaoblaganda

@perfect_10: the result as been snake eye!! dont you see it?

Posted by NightFang

This would make a great crossover comic or fan film.

Edited by HighlyEvolved

A better fight would be deathstroke vs snake eyes. In fact, I will do that now...

Posted by Jayc1324

@highlyevolved: if snake eyes can't beat batman how would he beat slade?

Posted by k4tzm4n

A better fight would be deathstroke vs snake eyes. In fact, I will do that now...

If Batman's currently taking Snake Eyes in the poll, how would Deathstroke be a better option...?

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Posted by dagmar_merrill

@k4tzm4n said:

@highlyevolved said:

A better fight would be deathstroke vs snake eyes. In fact, I will do that now...

If Batman's currently taking Snake Eyes in the poll, how would Deathstroke be a better option...?

Shush, logic isn't needed here. :P

Posted by Timotheus316

Snake Eyes would take Batman down and I love them both. It's still Snake Eyes.

Edited by HighlyEvolved

@jayc1324: @k4tzm4n: Deathstroke is better than batman, and more suited for fighting an opponent such as snake eyes.

Edited by Jayc1324

@highlyevolved: If batman is better than batman, and batman beats snake eyes, then how would someone better than batman be a better fight for snake eyes? Snake eyes is just going to get beat by deathstroke even worse since deathstroke is better than batman (stronger faster has a healing factor)

Posted by nickzambuto

The problem with that logic is that you're automatically assuming Batman is better than Snake Eyes when in fact the opposite is a possibility.

Posted by GBandit

Im voting for Snake

Batman has a cape which a ninja will take advantaged of. Nightwing did. I remember him wrapping Batman in his own cape once. If I was as skilled as Snakeyes I'd wait for the opportune moment and go for that too and finish him that way. Another way would be to pin the cape with his sword and shoot him.

Aside from that don't forget Snakeyes' arsenal is deadly: Grenades, swords, handgun, kunai, shurikens, combat knife. Batman's weapons can be lethal as we've seen when Jason stabbed Tim in the chest with a batarang but not Bat's intentions. He still has that "killing only makes me just as bad as he" philosophy while Snakeyes will kill for the sake of his mission. after all he is a soldier.

Also Batman's arsenal is mostly theatric he mainly has things to disorient like his smoke and flash. I don't think it would work that well against Snake.

He has grenades but again he will use them in a way that will not be lethal

He has his boomerangs snake dodges bullets and shurikens like it's his birthday. What could get him is the explosive type but again Snake can just shoot them from the distance

I think its a great match and could go either way but Im voting for Snake because of better arsenal and the intent to kill for the sake of his mission.

Posted by 69ballzdeep

@medulaoblaganda: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Just stop already. lol. We get it, your a Batman. movin on.

Posted by medulaoblaganda

@69ballzdeep: i never liked batman because they hype him too freaking much. they always think he can defeat planetry characters all the time. superman wasn't taking batman serious because he knows if he should get hit by superman, he will die straight. darkseid too the same thing. remember superman/batman apocalypse when dakseid told him he can destroy him with is omega beam in a single blast. darkseid could do that if he wanted too, but batman as a hero will always defeat darkseid no matter what.in superman's case i disagree with batman defeating superman. i absolutely love the way superman manhandled batman like a child in justice league war!!! hahahaha. batman fans will be like ''hell no that's not true, batman will beat superman, he will come with some thing else'' lol. so what am trying to say is batman cannot always win against unparalleled marshal artist. snake eye will mess batman up big time.

Posted by Cypher4

I love Batman but he would definitely lose this match. Sadly, he'll win anyway because most people haven't read the G.I. Joe comics. They know the cartoons where everything had to be toned down. In the comics, Snake-Eyes was the ultimate warrior. He was one of the most feared people. And, unlike Batman, Snake-Eyes will neutralize a threat with death if he has to. Both have amazing skills and tons of tools to help. But I think Snake-Eyes' guns and swords (and being the best there is at hand-to-hand combat) will get him the win.

Posted by k4tzm4n

SO BEGINS THE LAST DAY OF VOTING! SPREAD THE WORD!

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Posted by medulaoblaganda

@k4tzm4n: so begins the second to the last day of voting! spread the word!!