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Batman Battle of the Month: Bane vs. Bullseye

The man who broke the Bat or the Daredevil villain who has deadly accuracy? You have all week to think about this one, Viners. Come discuss it with your peers and then cast your vote once you've really thought it through.

Batman's run through a very tough gauntlet in this segment, so he's taking the month off (fear not, he'll make his return in the next edition). While Bruce Wayne enjoys some much deserved R&R, the man who once shattered his life will be put to the test. This month, Bane will square off against the incredibly lethal Daredevil villain, Bullseye.

Will Bane's pain tolerance grant him the win or will Bullseye make the foe fall from one too many wounds? Well, the outcome's completely up to your vote. Yes, you. So, if you happen to be particularly passionate about this one, go ahead and get your elaboration on. If it's awesome enough, it just may sway more votes to the character you're rooting for and potentially get promoted in Friday's update.

Anyway, read on to check out all of the rules for this fight. They're important, so don't overlook 'em. Once again, you have all week to think about this, so there's no need to vote just yet if you're not certain about who should earn your support.

Match Rules

  • Combatants are in character.
  • This is a random encounter.
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. Assume they start roughly 30 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc.
  • This is PRE-52 BANE with the same version and venom set-up he had during Knightfall. Aside from that, he's unarmed.
  • Bullseye's gear: a wide variety of throwing weapons (playing cards, shurikens, daggers, knives, etc.) and two sais.
  • Incapacitation, knockout or death all count as elimination.

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Posted by AllStarHit-Girl

Bane

Posted by lesterlawton

Bullseye. Bane becomes a walking pin-cushion.

Posted by lifeofvibe

bane

Posted by Dernman

Battle of the Month?

Posted by k4tzm4n

@dernman said:

Battle of the Month?

Yup, that's what I decided to start calling it about 3 or 4 matches ago (replaced Does Batman Always Win?).

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Posted by tximinoman

Does Bullseye know anything about Bane? Does he know about Venom? 'Cause if he doesn't he's dead but if he does there's not much of a contest here.

Edited by k4tzm4n

Does Bullseye know anything about Bane? Does he know about Venom?

No. It's a random encounter and neither have pre-existing knowledge of the other.

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Posted by iceslick

@k4tzm4n: Why is it only pre-52 Bane? Are they really any different? Have I been missing something about New 52 Bane?

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@iceslick said:

@k4tzm4n: Why is it only pre-52 Bane? Are they really any different? Have I been missing something about New 52 Bane?

The venom New 52 Bane uses makes him physically superior to his pre-Flashpoint version. He's also displayed no technique and basically relies on brute force.

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Posted by MixMastaMicah5

Bullseye

Posted by Giganman

Venom gives him enhanced healing. And if he can dodge alot of the gimmicky weapons Batman uses he should be able to do the same here. Any he doesn't he can likely shrug off. Winner: Bane

Posted by AustinCY

Bane has shown that he doesn't need to get things done with the use of Venom. When he was with the Secret Six (PRE-52), he didn't rely on his Venom until the last issue. So for people saying that Bullseye would simply cut his Venom tubes, I'm saying that Bane wouldn't even need to use it in the first place.

Bullseye's advantage is that there's 30 feet apart in which he can accurately project his weapons of choice. This advantage will make Bullseye cocky and will underestimate Bane. In addition, his hand-to-hand combat is exceptional and has a fighting chance to go up against Bane directly. Bullseye actually also has many of his bones laced with Adamantium which is another reason why he has a fighting chance.

Since the given scenario is at night time, Bane will most definitely use the shadows to his advantage while studying his opponent. I believe Bane will try to instill fear into Bullseye and make him paranoid of his surroundings. Bane will strike at the right moment and force Bullseye to fight hand-to-hand combat. But since Bullseye has his weapons, he'll do some considerable damage. On the other hand, Bane can take a gruesome amount of damage and still fight. Bane's physically stronger, fights smarter and more determined than Bullseye.

In this given scenario, Bane will defeat Bullseye via back-break.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@austincy: Welcome to the site and thanks for the detailed post!

If you'd like to be potentially selected for Friday's "Viner Argument of the Week," you'll have to paste it in the poll thread as well. Thanks.

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Posted by iceslick

@k4tzm4n: Oh thanks for the info. I never really noticed that.

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@iceslick said:

@k4tzm4n: Oh thanks for the info. I never really noticed that.

You're welcome.

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Edited by Zjun_

30 feet apart should grant enough time for Bullseye to end Bane('s head) with a dagger. Bane will prove to be enough of a threat for Bullseye to end it then & there with a sickening "splat" and "thud". Bullseye isn't stupid, so I'll give it to him; but barely (5.5/10).

Posted by cascadeking09

This is a great match up imo. Bane's definitely got the agility to dodge whatever Bullseye can throw at him. He's been able to avoid shots from expert marksmen including Batman, Nightwing, and Az-bat, who fired his like bullets. He's definitely physically superior to Bullseye even off venom he's been shown to rip the walls off prison cells with ease, with venom he grows twice as strong. He's also got his own skills in h2h combat, should it come down to it.

Bullseye area of expertice is nailing his target, he's surely got the skills to tag even the most agile of opponents including Daredevil. He's gone toe to toe with Daredevil on multiple occasions, and Elektra as well. Given that he's been able to tag people like Daredevil who have radar sense from a distance and stop Deadpool in his tracks, who has a crazy healing factor, I'd say Bullseye has a good shot at winning this fight if he avoids a straight up hand 2 hand fight and he's already at an advantage starting 30 feet apart.

That being said when it comes to strength, intelligence, stamina, stealth and endurance, Bane is the one with more advantages. Considering those factors, which all will almost certainly come into play into play at some point in the fight. When that happens Bullseye will be forced to fight Bane's fight. However, this is not my final stance on the fight the fight. I'll have to do some reading on both before I give my verdict.

Posted by HumanNumber

I'm backing Bane on this one.

The way I see this, Bullseye is going to have to keep this at a distance that he can maneuver with, otherwise he gets killed. The reason for this is that while Lester is a capable fighter he won't be able to stop Bane from overwhelming him in hand to hand because of his skill+significant strength. Bane has shown the strength and willingness to tear peoples limbs off, heads too. And against someone he doesn't know he isn't going to take any time gloating or torturing, he's just going to kill him and be done with it. On the other hand if everything was going right in this battle for Bullseye i can easily imagine him beginning to gloat and taunt and take his time. If everything would to go right for Bullseye, Bane would "be a pincushion" and Bullseye would love it to expertly pick this 'brute' apart with painful accuracy. That will hurt Lester like it always does, he can't help it and a mistake like that can let Bane catch him off guard/close the distance. Now that is only an issue if everything goes right for Bullseye and i feel that against Bane, not much goes right for the people he fights. It will be a brutal battle i am sure and i can see how Bullseye will keep it interesting, he's agile, quick, and dangerously accurate. I can imagine him keeping his distance and playing it well for the early stages of the fight but i can't imagine Bane being unable to close the distance at some point. And if Bane closes the distance i believe that's the beginning of the end of the fight.

I would give Bullseye 4 out of 10 fights against Bane, i can't claim that Bullseye couldn't win at least a few times but if their fighting that their best Bane get's the majority and the win in this single bout.

Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse

Bane, I think.

Edited by Iron_Turtle

I'm swayed towards Bane on this one.

Just need to confirm one thing before I am absolutely certain though.

In the Knightfall novelisation by Dennis O'Neil. As part of the process which granted him the venom delivery system and implants, Bane is described as having sub dermal armour implants protecting all of his vital organs and brain.

Is this cannon? If this is, then I can confidently say that there is no way Bullseye is winning this.

Posted by Wolverine08

In this situation, I'd have to back Lester for the majority. 30 feet of distance is more than enough distance for Lester to put the cumulative damage on Bane necessary to either extremely hinder him, or make him succumb to his injuries before he could engage Lester in hand to hand combat, and I do not see the cover making much of a difference considering Lester's world class aim. Despite Bane's ludicrous pain tolerance and the increased damage soak capabilities Venom will grant him which will help make shrugging off injuries to non lethal body parts while still functioning optimally easier, a sai to through the brain or the heart is well, a sai through the brain or the heart. Bane also tends to tank damage thrown his way, and this tendency will probably increase with Bane's pain tolerance and damage soak capabilities being enhanced by Venom. Bane has also never really shown the agility that people who have managed to successfully make a career out of dodging Bullseye's projectiles (A Daredevil for example) that he'll need to dodge Lester and get in for a hand to hand fight with him.

I can indeed see Bane craftily stealing a few victories if Lester does not take this extremely dangerous opponent he is facing as seriously as he should at first, and plays around at first while trying to savor killing his prey. This is something he has done on and off occasionally, and it has cost him victories with people like Crossbones and Moon Knight. If he does try play that with Bane in this situation, this is going to end up being a hand to hand fight, and Lester isn't going to be dropping a Venom enhanced Bane purely H2H anytime soon.

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Edited by mikep12

As much as it pains me I have to give this to Bullseyes. Lets not forget Bulleye is kind of insane and fights DareDevil who is as intimidating as Batman so I don't see Bane winning through fear. Banes fighting skills while excellent he doesn't have the speed to touch Bullseye and Bullseyes acrobatic skills also give him the advantage to dodge Bane and using the area around him for a variety of snipping possessions especially with the 30ft distance advantage. Who's to say Bullseye won't uses the dark to his advantage as the shine coming from the light of the street lights would give him away thanks to the shine of the shurikens and knifes it's more likely he'd use the dark to his advantage. But from what I've looked up DareDevil has defeated Bullseye even with the adamantium through conventional ways like fist, and his simple gadgets. The adamantium is still an adavantage as Bane might not be able to break certain bones and might injure himself in the process especially if this is a random encounter so he won 't be able to put him down by breaking his bones. The adamantium would also pack an extra punch but batmans batarangs which I've seen penetrate bricks before had no effect especially with that pain tolerance factor but it could also be said Batman wasn't trying to kill him will Bullseye is. Bane without venom would only have less tolerance to Bullseyes projectiles and breaking street light's and windows would give him basically infinite ammo. Based on the conditions given and what I've research I've got to give it to Bullseye.

Edited by mightyrearranger

I feel like Bulls gets the kill of his initial throw/shot over 30 feet is a headshot.

Anything less and Bane takes to the shadows. He has some impressive speed and tracking feats.

Posted by westy206

I believe it would start with Bane storming towards Bulllseye as Bullseye back tracks trying to keep the distance, i wouldnt be surprised if Bullseye tries to get to higher ground maybe climing up fire escape or aomething similar and using his perfect accuracy to take Bane down. I'm aware Bane isn't stupid but to win he needs to get close where he could out fight Bullseye due to his enhanced strength. The Marvel hitman has to many expert skills to be taken down by Bane and will probably get a shot off that would cut Banes neck open. Bullseye has unlimited weopons. A simple smash of a window and he has shards of glass that he can throw like daggers. So in my opinion bullseye is favourite.

Posted by GodDamnIronMan

@giganman said:

Venom gives him enhanced healing. And if he can dodge alot of the gimmicky weapons Batman uses he should be able to do the same here. Any he doesn't he can likely shrug off. Winner: Bane

LOL, no offense, while Batman has some decent accuracy feats, he is no match to Bull eyes. when it comes to projectiles.

Edited by Herald417

Bullseye takes 8/10 IMO. I think that with the starting distance being 30 ft, bulleseye's acrobatic skill, and ability to make anything that can be thrown a deadly weapon he will easily be able to keep bane at a distance and take him down using projectiles. Since Bane doesn't have any armor and will have to inject venom to gain his super durability I see Lester taking him down quickly with a head or neck shot. Lester has been shown to tag Elektra and Daredevil who have far more impressive acrobatic and dodging feats so he should be able to easily hit bane.

If Bane makes it h2h fight he will win, but Lester also has adamantium laced bones this combined with his agility could allow him to survive what bane would think is game ending attack and get back to distance fighting. What could make Lester lose is that he sometimes likes to toy with his victims which if he does this with bane he is dead.

Posted by Gabranth

Bane. Flawless victory.

Posted by loganchild

The worst place to finghr bulls id in an alley he gonna slice bane to lunch meat but it and when bane gets his hands on bullseye s.hands and. Snaps thwm like slim jims id say bane cause he's a monster

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gonna go with bullseye, he's gonna see those venom tubes as a target and he's plenty good at dodging if Bane does come close. Besides Bullseye has gone against way more powerful threats as a member of Osborne's Avengers

Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf

I wouldn't be surprised if Bullseye managed to blind Bane by spitting into his eyes :P

Posted by Jake Fury

Bullseye makes a paper airplane and impales Bane with it.

Edited by dagmar_merrill

Is Batman ever going to be used in Batman battle of the month again?

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Posted by GhostWriter

Bane has trained his mind and body to absolute perfection. He is extremely intelligent, he's one of the DC universe's best tacticians, and he's strong as hell. With or without Venom. Now, it's to be expected that he has learned many different fighting skills, though he's more than likely to use one above all others, due to it being his fighting form of choice. He's a creature of habit when it comes to battle, he likes to use brute strength most of the time, and end off with a backbreaker. (Seriously, why do writers continue to make him do this to every opponent? He broke Batman because it was part of his plan and Bruce was worth being broken, but for him to do it randomly to people? It just doesn't make much sense.)

Anywho, he's going to pump himself up and start sprinting at Lester, or jump at him. He's going to try and close the gap at any cost, because the gap is what Lester's gonna use to win. By this time, Bane's not going to be thinking nearly as clearly, pumping himself with Venom.

Now is where Lester end's this somewhat quickly. He's trained, physically imposing and he's armed to the teeth by the sounds of it. Oh, and did I mention he's bat-Sh** crazy? (mind the pun.)

Lester's no dummy. Even in a random encounter, he'll notice the tubes are fueling Bane, he's going to throw something with deadly accuracy and sever his connection to Venom, at that point, Lester's gonna separate himself, he'll clamor away quickly, perhaps use parkour to climb up a building, get a high vantage point and throw knives or any object at Bane until the behemoth goes down.

So ya, Lester'll win this

Edited by Mr_Athrilla

30 feet apart,visible and Bane is unarmed? . Im starting to think the guys at comic vine suspect Bane slept with their wives.

Posted by k4tzm4n

30 feet apart,visible and Bane is unarmed? . Im starting to think the guys at comic vine suspect Bane slept with their wives.

"There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc."

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@dagmar_merrill said:

Is Batman ever going to be used in Batman battle of the month again?

The guy had 11 months of fights in a row -- he's earned a break (everyone: avoid Bane puns).

But more to the point: yes and it says when he'll return in the first sentence.

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Posted by Wolverine08

@k4tzm4n said:
@dagmar_merrill said:

Is Batman ever going to be used in Batman battle of the month again?

The guy had 11 months of fights in a row -- he's earned a break (everyone: avoid Bane puns).

But more to the point: yes and it says when he'll return in the first sentence.

YOU CAN'T DENY BATMAN!

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Posted by 8008S

Might be too close to call.

Posted by Life_Without_Progress

Oh man, sweet match up! :)

Posted by ComicStooge

I was hoping for a match with NoBody or Damian before you took Bruce out of BBotW retirement :'(

Edited by blackkitty

My problem is that people are giving Bane victory due to intelligence and stealth. They are 30 feet away in a random encounter. Stealth will never come into play. I actually go with Bullseye. Hes a better throwers than Batman and would go for instant kill shots. His adamantium skeleton would surprise Bane long enough for an instant kill via sai

Posted by schillenger420

Bullseye has this. Bane's more or less a chump, who once broke Batman's back one time many years ago and hasn't really done squat since. On paper he's a great tactician, but when has he ever really used such skills? Dude's a suped up Lucha libre, and he's unarmed. Bullseye slits his throat from 30 ft away about five seconds after this fight starts.

Posted by Vampire_Batman

Bullseye likely says something cocky about how he "never misses" then demonstrates his power to Bane. Bane likely then either keeps cover or more likely, moves into a confined area like a building and waits for BE to come to him. I think the 2 main factors are 1. Bullseye's cockiness and willingness to show off. 2. Bane's intelligence and ability to win at any cost.

Posted by LordoftheNorth

This all Bane he is bigger, smarter, faster, stronger, stealth, and he has the advantage in h2h even with out Venom add in Venom and all those stats go way up as well as giving Bane inhanced durability which is going to let him shurg off knife throws(Bullseyes prefured weapon) pretty easily it also gives him a small healing factor, Bane also has the element of surprise since Bane can use Venom at any moment.

Bullseyes only advantage is the 30 ft at the begining of the fight and even than Bane has great agility being able to dodge Batarangs from one of DC's greatest marksmen Batman plus all the crap in between them that Bane can use as cover or he can use them as weapons throwing them at Bullseye. So he uses his better abilities aswell as the surroundings to his advantage, Bane closes the distance ativates the Venom and rips Bullseye in half

as for the adamantium laced skeleton and the key word is laced one hit from Bane and bits and pieces of his bones will start breaking aswell as all the wonderful unprotected organs.

I find anyone who brings up Bulleye's insanity funny as hell Bane is the enemy of Batman who is from Gotham aka crazy town USA if Bullseye went to Gotham he would most likely be the sanist person with in 100 miles

Posted by sasquatch888

@giganman said:

Venom gives him enhanced healing. And if he can dodge alot of the gimmicky weapons Batman uses he should be able to do the same here. Any he doesn't he can likely shrug off. Winner: Bane

LOL, no offense, while Batman has some decent accuracy feats, he is no match to Bull eyes. when it comes to projectiles.

why have you ever seen batman miss his target?

Posted by bigtewell

Does bullseye have his adamantium skeleton?

if he does i definitely give it to him. im pretty sure even hopped up on venom bane still couldnt break that stuff and if bullseye is playing keep away and bane cant even hurt him close up its clear that bullseye has got this

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