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'Batman: Arkham Origins' Gameplay Trailer [Update]

We've seen plenty of awesome CGI, but now it's time to see how the gameplay holds up!

E3 kicked off today and with it comes a glorious look at the new Batman game! We already know they can make a stunning cutscene and we've seen a few screenshots, but now we're getting a far more detailed look at the gameplay. The video shows off some basic combat, new equipment and a detective mode which can rewind a crime. Also included: a first look at Bane and glimpses of how Roger Craig Smith and Troy Baker sound as the Caped Crusader and Joker.

UPDATE

Sadly, the video has been taken down. We'll be sure to put the official one here once it becomes available!

The trailer has been officially released to us. (Look up!) Enjoy!

Batman: Arkham Origins comes out 10/25.

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Edited by DocLuthorVonDoom

@entropy_aegis: Lol, misinformed? I think a dual identity might just be a bit too complex of a concept for you to handle; no need to fly off the handle and take it out on people, I forgive your mental shortcomings. I can site several examples where Batman was stated as being the "true identity": Superman/Batman # 76, The Cathexis crisis in JLA (starting in # 52), and the Batman Beyond episode Shriek; just to name a few. Can you support your argument? You might be able to, but it's not where I'm gonna put my money.

Also, everything's a money grab so that makes it okay? just because so much has become about mass appeal and making money, that means we're just suppose to swallow it? Just accept it, with no indignation? Enjoy your chains

Lastly, yes, Batman would destroy Deathstroke. Have you even read Wolfman's run in Teen Titans?

P.S.
Nolan's a hack, and his movies are a joke.

P.P.S.
That's not opinion, it's fact.

Edited by Shallbecomeabattoo

@ninjablade09: Oh yeah, Bruce Greenwood is my favorite Batman voice only actor by far, so I understand what you mean. Sadly he doesn't play the part that often. He only did Under The Red Hood and Young Justice, right? Yeah, he is a great Batman voice.

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@ninjablade09: Oh yeah, Bruce Greenwood is my favorite Batman voice only actor by far, so I understand what you mean. Sadly he doesn't play the part that often. He only did Under The Red Hood and Young Justice, right? Yeah, he is a great Batman voice.

Correct. Love his voice in Under the Red Hood.

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@entropy_aegis: Lol, misinformed? I think a dual identity might just be a bit too complex of a concept for you to handle; no need to fly off the handle and take it out on people, I forgive your mental shortcomings. I can site several examples where Batman was stated as being the "true identity": Superman/Batman # 76, The Cathexis crisis in JLA (starting in # 52), and the Batman Beyond episode Shriek; just to name a few. Can you support your argument? You might be able to, but it's not where I'm gonna put my money.

Also, everything's a money grab so that makes it okay? just because so much has become about mass appeal and making money, that means we're just suppose to swallow it? Just accept it, with no indignation? Enjoy your chains

Lastly, yes, Batman would destroy Deathstroke. Have you even read Wolfman's run in Teen Titans?

P.S.

Nolan's a hack, and his movies are a joke.

P.P.S.

That's not opinion, it's fact.

This whole dual identity rubbish WAS complex,now it's an overused joke,meant to pander to misinformed fanboys like yourself.The same one's who wish to see Batman rot in a state of stagnation and mediocrity,it's been done to death.I can name even more examples about Batman being the real face than you just did,for example Batman:Gotham Knights,Etrigan took Bruce to a chamber which required the people entering to show their true faces, but Bruce went in masked.But it's something which is ridiculously overused,I for one find it refreshing when Bruce Wayne is written with personality,something which people like you cant handle.Superman/Batman is a joke series that is set in it's own corner of the universe btw,and Batman Beyond aint even canon.

Yes I have read Wolfmans Titans,likewise I've also read Wolfmans Terminator series.Read issues #6-10 and then tell me who destroys who.

Arkham Origins is as much as a money grab as the previous 2,I'm not even a gamer and am not really interested in it but what exactly is your argument here? it's gonna suck cause Conroy,Dini and Hamill(3 guys out of their prime and have overstayed their welcome) aren't in it? just GTFO .

PS:For all your enhanced mental capabilities you sure dont know the difference between an opinion and fact.

Posted by DocLuthorVonDoom

This whole dual identity rubbish WAS complex,now it's an overused joke,meant to pander to misinformed fanboys like yourself.The same one's who wish to see Batman rot in a state of stagnation and mediocrity,it's been done to death.I can name even more examples about Batman being the real face than you just did,for example Batman:Gotham Knights,Etrigan took Bruce to a chamber which required the people entering to show their true faces, but Bruce went in masked.But it's something which is ridiculously overused,I for one find it refreshing when Bruce Wayne is written with personality,something which people like you cant handle.Superman/Batman is a joke series that is set in it's own corner of the universe btw,and Batman Beyond aint even canon.

Firstly, misinformed how? I just gave you three examples by Mark Waid, Judd Winnick and Paul Dini that align with my point of view, and, honestly, I'm more inclined to trust their vision of the characters then yours. And you just cited another example from Gotham Knights as well; how is that helping your argument, at all? What, you just wanted to prove you could name, at least one example? Name something to the contrary then? I'm waiting... Secondly, so by liking these, time tested, attributes to the character you accuse me of wanting the series to stagnate? And then you turn right around and defend Nolan? Because Nolan's take on the character was so fresh, right? Thirdly, you're citing Gotham Knights, but you say Superman/Batman was a joke? And since when does Superman/Batman take place in it's "own corner of the universe"? That's the series that introduced the post-crisis Kara. And, lastly, Batman Beyond's not cannon? No shit? Really? So just because it's not cannon I can't use it as a basis for establishing the characters personality? But you can cite Nolan? Those are some funky rules.

Arkham Origins is as much as a money grab as the previous 2,I'm not even a gamer and am not really interested in it but what exactly is your argument here? it's gonna suck cause Conroy,Dini and Hamill(3 guys out of their prime and have overstayed their welcome) aren't in it? just GTFO .

Man, you really just don't get it do you? ...surprise surprise. The missing voice cast is unfortunate, but forgivable; and, yeah, Dini's gone, also unfortunate, but if they hired another, good (i.e. not Scott Snyder), comic writer for the game I'd be fine with that. My problem is that this has no ties to the Batman comic; or the last two games, for that matter. It's written and directed by guys who worked on a bunch of other awful games, (i.e. Assassin's Creed, Gears of War), it's a new studio and a new development team. My guess is WB made these decisions because it was a cheaper way to go; hence, moneygrab. Of course you can make the argument that all things made to be sold are "moneygrabs", and you wouldn't be wrong, it's a subjective phrase, but that would get a bit tedious, wouldn't it? This is a glaring moneygrab, as talent has been disregarded for the sake of greater prophets. So, essentially, this is going to be Ninja Gaiden 3, but for Batman.

Also, not even a gamer? Then why the fuck are you even talking? I'd be clever here, like you, and insert a trendy little acronym, like gtfo or stfu, but that shit's so gauche.

Posted by entropy_aegis

@entropy_aegis said:

This whole dual identity rubbish WAS complex,now it's an overused joke,meant to pander to misinformed fanboys like yourself.The same one's who wish to see Batman rot in a state of stagnation and mediocrity,it's been done to death.I can name even more examples about Batman being the real face than you just did,for example Batman:Gotham Knights,Etrigan took Bruce to a chamber which required the people entering to show their true faces, but Bruce went in masked.But it's something which is ridiculously overused,I for one find it refreshing when Bruce Wayne is written with personality,something which people like you cant handle.Superman/Batman is a joke series that is set in it's own corner of the universe btw,and Batman Beyond aint even canon.

Firstly, misinformed how? I just gave you three examples by Mark Waid, Judd Winnick and Paul Dini that align with my point of view, and, honestly, I'm more inclined to trust their vision of the characters then yours. And you just cited another example from Gotham Knights as well; how is that helping your argument, at all? What, you just wanted to prove you could name, at least one example? Name something to the contrary then? I'm waiting... Secondly, so by liking these, time tested, attributes to the character you accuse me of wanting the series to stagnate? And then you turn right around and defend Nolan? Because Nolan's take on the character was so fresh, right? Thirdly, you're citing Gotham Knights, but you say Superman/Batman was a joke? And since when does Superman/Batman take place in it's "own corner of the universe"? That's the series that introduced the post-crisis Kara. And, lastly, Batman Beyond's not cannon? No shit? Really? So just because it's not cannon I can't use it as a basis for establishing the characters personality? But you can cite Nolan? Those are some funky rules.

@entropy_aegis said:

Arkham Origins is as much as a money grab as the previous 2,I'm not even a gamer and am not really interested in it but what exactly is your argument here? it's gonna suck cause Conroy,Dini and Hamill(3 guys out of their prime and have overstayed their welcome) aren't in it? just GTFO .

Man, you really just don't get it do you? ...surprise surprise. The missing voice cast is unfortunate, but forgivable; and, yeah, Dini's gone, also unfortunate, but if they hired another, good (i.e. not Scott Snyder), comic writer for the game I'd be fine with that. My problem is that this has no ties to the Batman comic; or the last two games, for that matter. It's written and directed by guys who worked on a bunch of other awful games, (i.e. Assassin's Creed, Gears of War), it's a new studio and a new development team. My guess is WB made these decisions because it was a cheaper way to go; hence, moneygrab. Of course you can make the argument that all things made to be sold are "moneygrabs", and you wouldn't be wrong, it's a subjective phrase, but that would get a bit tedious, wouldn't it? This is a glaring moneygrab, as talent has been disregarded for the sake of greater prophets. So, essentially, this is going to be Ninja Gaiden 3, but for Batman.

Also, not even a gamer? Then why the fuck are you even talking? I'd be clever here, like you, and insert a trendy little acronym, like gtfo or stfu, but that shit's so gauche.

I'm more inclined to trust Morrison than all 3 of them put together,atleast he introduced 2 of the biggest traits that define the character(Batgod,the idea that Batman could be as unhinged as his enemies).

I used the example from a proper book,not the joke series that was Superman/Batman(unless you think dust>omega beams),and yes with the exception of a few arcs that series existed in it's own continuity.I wish I had the interviews that stated that but it makes sense,considering all the stupid things that happened there.

I also did not defend Nolan nor did I cite him,you just jumped in and called his movies a joke for no reason at all,and Nolan gave Batman a proper ending,thats something no one has ever done.

Also who cares if Arkham has no ties to the comic? it's a game get over it and it actually shows guts on their part.They are interested in their own story instead of safely ripping off comic arcs and for that they deserve to be applauded,this game also has ties to the previous games(prequel) and whatever things that they're ignoring such as retard Bane for example are for the better.Gaming doesn't interest me but Batman does and this is about Batman so I'll comment as I please.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@entropy_aegis: you give the impression that you did not enjoy the previous arkham games, and while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i am just interested why? :)

Posted by entropy_aegis

@entropy_aegis: you give the impression that you did not enjoy the previous arkham games, and while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i am just interested why? :)

I enjoyed the games for that they were worth,the experience of being Batman was fully realized in them and for that I love them.I get irritated when fans go on and on about how the stories were great(when in reality they were awfully predictable) and more importantly this Conroy/Hamill love gets blown waaaaay out of proportion.I loved the animated series as much as anyone but these Conroy/Hamill fanatics refuse to acknowledge anyone else let alone give them credit.Time to grow up is my advice to those people.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: you give the impression that you did not enjoy the previous arkham games, and while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i am just interested why? :)

I enjoyed the games for that they were worth,the experience of being Batman was fully realized in them and for that I love them.I get irritated when fans go on and on about how the stories were great(when in reality they were awfully predictable) and more importantly this Conroy/Hamill love gets blown waaaaay out of proportion.I loved the animated series as much as anyone but these Conroy/Hamill fanatics refuse to acknowledge anyone else let alone give them credit.Time to grow up is my advice to those people.

well i agree that it could get out of hand, but you have to admit that their performance in the games were really good and you could see how much the loved playing the character, i of course don't mind when voice actors change as i loved the voice actors on batman Under the red hood, and THE BATMAN series introduced two of my favorite versions of batman and the joker, bruce Wayne had a personality there and so did batman. :)

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@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: you give the impression that you did not enjoy the previous arkham games, and while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i am just interested why? :)

I enjoyed the games for that they were worth,the experience of being Batman was fully realized in them and for that I love them.I get irritated when fans go on and on about how the stories were great(when in reality they were awfully predictable) and more importantly this Conroy/Hamill love gets blown waaaaay out of proportion.I loved the animated series as much as anyone but these Conroy/Hamill fanatics refuse to acknowledge anyone else let alone give them credit.Time to grow up is my advice to those people.

well i agree that it could get out of hand, but you have to admit that their performance in the games were really good and you could see how much the loved playing the character, i of course don't mind when voice actors change as i loved the voice actors on batman Under the red hood, and THE BATMAN series introduced two of my favorite versions of batman and the joker, bruce Wayne had a personality there and so did batman. :)

No doubt about it,but Batman is immortal something which cannot be said for either Conroy or Hamill,one day they're gonna have to hang up(Hamill has done it already),so IMO fans should be more accepting of fresh faces and prepare for the inevitable.

Posted by entropy_aegis

Also Conroy is close to being 60 years old,this Batman is in his twenties so like I said it's just a matter of time.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@entropy_aegis: thats true. besides, i like the voices in this trailer.

Posted by entropy_aegis
Edited by DocLuthorVonDoom

@entropy_aegis said:

I'm more inclined to trust Morrison than all 3 of them put together,atleast he introduced 2 of the biggest traits that define the character(Batgod,the idea that Batman could be as unhinged as his enemies).

You keep saying this about Morrison, but I don't see you giving me any examples. I kept up with his epic 7 year run on the series, and the only thing I can think of remotely close to him saying that Bruce is the real identity is a passing line in Batman and Son where he says he's going to try to have a life as Bruce Wayne again...which, if anything, just furthers my argument, as it establishes that he, at least at one point, abandoned that identity.

@entropy_aegis said:

I used the example from a proper book,not the joke series that was Superman/Batman(unless you think dust>omega beams),and yes with the exception of a few arcs that series existed in it's own continuity.I wish I had the interviews that stated that but it makes sense,considering all the stupid things that happened there.

You don't have the interview because it doesn't exist; unless it's a post flashpoint interview, in which case I severely underestimated your flare for the irreverent.

@entropy_aegis said:

I also did not defend Nolan nor did I cite him,you just jumped in and called his movies a joke for no reason at all,and Nolan gave Batman a proper ending,thats something no one has ever done.

Never defended Nolan eh?

@entropy_aegis said:

That's what a misinformed fan would say,Bruce Wayne and Batman are one and the same.Guys like Nolan and Morrison understand that,

I suppose I just dreamed that part. Also, man you really like throwing that word misinformed around don't you? I'm beginning to think you don't know what it means, that you were, perhaps, misinformed.

@entropy_aegis said:

Also who cares if Arkham has no ties to the comic?

Obviously not you.

Sure, feel free to comment. I'm sure you consider your necessity to weigh in your boorish opinion for all things Batman related a noble endeavor; I look forward to your blog about the Happy Meal toys for the various movie incarnations.

Posted by entropy_aegis

@entropy_aegis said:

I'm more inclined to trust Morrison than all 3 of them put together,atleast he introduced 2 of the biggest traits that define the character(Batgod,the idea that Batman could be as unhinged as his enemies).

You keep saying this about Morrison, but I don't see you giving me any examples. I kept up with his epic 7 year run on the series, and the only thing I can think of remotely close to him saying that Bruce is the real identity is a passing line in Batman and Son where he says he's going to try to have a life as Bruce Wayne again...which, if anything, just furthers my argument, as it establishes that he, at least at one point, abandoned that identity.

@entropy_aegis said:

I used the example from a proper book,not the joke series that was Superman/Batman(unless you think dust>omega beams),and yes with the exception of a few arcs that series existed in it's own continuity.I wish I had the interviews that stated that but it makes sense,considering all the stupid things that happened there.

You don't have the interview because it doesn't exist; unless it's a post flashpoint interview, in which case I severely underestimated your flare for the irreverent.

@entropy_aegis said:

I also did not defend Nolan nor did I cite him,you just jumped in and called his movies a joke for no reason at all,and Nolan gave Batman a proper ending,thats something no one has ever done.

Never defended Nolan eh?

@entropy_aegis said:

That's what a misinformed fan would say,Bruce Wayne and Batman are one and the same.Guys like Nolan and Morrison understand that,

I suppose I just dreamed that part. Also, man you really like throwing that word misinformed around don't you? I'm beginning to think you don't know what it means, that you were, perhaps, misinformed.

@entropy_aegis said:

Also who cares if Arkham has no ties to the comic?

Obviously not you.

Sure, feel free to comment. I'm sure you consider your necessity to weigh in your boorish opinion for all things Batman related a noble endeavor; I look forward to your blog about the Happy Meal toys for the various movie incarnations.

Yes the interview/clarification does exist the writer who gave it said that only those parts are canon which they(the writers) themselves confirm to be in canon.Unless ofcourse you think Bane goes back to using venom and gets his heart ripped off.

Um Haven't you proven my point by bringing up Morrison? he thinks it's dumb too.

Yeah I dont care about copy/pasting comic stories in to animated/movie/video game format.I'm getting sick and tired of paying for the same stuff,the last DC animated movie Superman:Unbound made me realize that.I read it in the comic,I dont wanna replay it all over again.

Edited by HBKTimHBK

This game should be great

Edited by DocLuthorVonDoom

@entropy_aegis said:

Yes the interview/clarification does exist the writer who gave it said that only those parts are canon which they(the writers) themselves confirm to be in canon.Unless ofcourse you think Bane goes back to using venom and gets his heart ripped off.

Um Haven't you proven my point by bringing up Morrison? he thinks it's dumb too.

Yeah I dont care about copy/pasting comic stories in to animated/movie/video game format.I'm getting sick and tired of paying for the same stuff,the last DC animated movie Superman:Unbound made me realize that.I read it in the comic,I dont wanna replay it all over again.

So it does exist? But you have no link, no quotes...and you can't even tell me what writers, supposedly, said this?

And how does bringing up Morrison prove your point, at all? That makes no sense, whatsoever! What, do you just have a tiny Grant Morrison in your pocket that agrees with everything you say? I keep pretty close tabs on Mr. Morrison, and I've certainly never heard anything to support the claims you're making here.

And who says that I want a copy and paste of the comic? I certainly never said that. I want comic writers involved, but that doesn't mean that I want a direct copy of the books. Weren't Akham Asylum, Arkham City, The Justice League AS, Justice League Unlimited and Batman 1989 (just to name a few) all original stories? And all scripted or co-scripted by prominent comic book authors?

You're just pulling things out of your behind here, claiming authors agree with you, but providing no support, and arguing against points no one's made.

Posted by entropy_aegis

@entropy_aegis said:

Yes the interview/clarification does exist the writer who gave it said that only those parts are canon which they(the writers) themselves confirm to be in canon.Unless ofcourse you think Bane goes back to using venom and gets his heart ripped off.

Um Haven't you proven my point by bringing up Morrison? he thinks it's dumb too.

Yeah I dont care about copy/pasting comic stories in to animated/movie/video game format.I'm getting sick and tired of paying for the same stuff,the last DC animated movie Superman:Unbound made me realize that.I read it in the comic,I dont wanna replay it all over again.

So it does exist? But you have no link, no quotes...and you can't even tell me what writers, supposedly, said this?

And how does bringing up Morrison prove your point, at all? That makes no sense, whatsoever! What, do you just have a tiny Grant Morrison in your pocket that agrees with everything you say? I keep pretty close tabs on Mr. Morrison, and I've certainly never heard anything to support the claims you're making here.

And who says that I want a copy and paste of the comic? I certainly never said that. I want comic writers involved, but that doesn't mean that I want a direct copy of the book. Weren't Akham Asylum, Arkham City, The Justice League AS, Justice League Unlimited and Batman 1989 all original stories? And all scripted or co-scripted by prominent comic book authors?

Your just pulling things out of your behind here, claiming authors agree with you, but providing no support, and arguing against points no one's made.

Yeah well I didn't realize I was gonna go up against a guy named luthorvondoom one day...seriously dude,that whole series is full of WTF moments,I liked it,it's funny and definitely there ARE things from that series that are in continuity all I'm saying is that whatever happened in that book take it with a grain of salt.

Morrisons entire run revolves around the idea that Bruce Wayne and Batman need each other to be effective that's what Batman INC is based upon,if you cant see that then you clearly haven't understood his Batman work.

Batman 89 had nothing to do with the comics,and neither did Justice League Unlimited,they took comic characters and put a different spin on them.

AA and AC just rips off everything from the comics I find them highly predictable,truth be told I feel it's cause Paul Dini is a one trick pony.

Edited by DocLuthorVonDoom

@entropy_aegis said:

Yeah well I didn't realize I was gonna go up against a guy named luthorvondoom one day...seriously dude,that whole series is full of WTF moments,I liked it,it's funny and definitely there ARE things from that series that are in continuity all I'm saying is that whatever happened in that book take it with a grain of salt.

Morrisons entire run revolves around the idea that Bruce Wayne and Batman need each other to be effective that's what Batman INC is based upon,if you cant see that then you clearly haven't understood his Batman work.

Batman 89 had nothing to do with the comics,and neither did Justice League Unlimited,they took comic characters and put a different spin on them.

AA and AC just rips off everything from the comics I find them highly predictable,truth be told I feel it's cause Paul Dini is a one trick pony.

Okay, for starters, whether Superman/Batman is canon is irrelevant. I was using it as an example of a common character trait of the Batman mythos. You're the one who said that it's not canon, which miffed me, as I've never heard of that, and you can't seem to provide me anything to go on for that but your word...talk about taking things with a grain of salt.

Also, that's your interpretation of the Batman Inc initiative. It's hardly proof of anything; it can also be interpreted that he sees the Bruce identity as a tool in his arsenal that's not being properly utilized, rather then giving into the identity as a part of him. It's a message of utility, it's also why he draws in his allies closer. Also, I'd like to note, I feel like if your interpretation actually held any merit then he would have spent much more time as Bruce after he returned from his time travel adventure and created Batman Inc; he is rarely ever shown without the cape and cowl from this point in the series onward.

And what does it matter that Batman 89 and Justice League unlimited had nothing to do with the comics? How much ADD do you have? The argument was that a comic book writer can be involved with other forms of related media, and not have it be a direct copy of the comics content....so, essentially, you just agreed with me.

Naturally you're welcome to your opinion about Paul Dini...but, just so you know, you're friggin' wrong.

Edited by Ninjablade09

@entropy_aegis: @docluthorvondoom: I'm going to pitch in about Dini, the whole Joker with the titian venom isn't the first time it has happened, in the media. The story actually originated from The Batman 2004 series. So it's not like it was anything new. And also, Batman Arkham Asylum, I think was originally supposed to take place around issue 500, then City happened making it it's own series.

Also, multiple people have said that Bruce Wayne and Batman are one in the same person, cant quote them because well, they were comments. I hate to bring it up, but that was a major theme of the Dark Knight trilogy, where if you look at the credits for DK and DKR, it only says Christian Bale-Bruce Wayne but in BB it says Bruce Wayne/Batman. Now that is my opinion, and you guys can move on with your lives.

Posted by DocLuthorVonDoom

@ninjablade09: Yeah, I'll give you that. The ending to Arkham Asylum felt pretty forced, also very anticlimactic. I give Dini a mulligan on this though, as it was a new medium of storytelling for him. But I still think his run in Detective Comics and Streets of Gotham were some of the best Batman stories in a long time, next to Morrisons, that is.

And I always considered the arkham games to be their own series, but you're right, there's really nothing presented in the first game that's not canon with the comic. They even have a Ventriloquist absent Scarface puppet, which makes sense since he was dead at the time. I suppose it's really only in the second game that things get all topsy turvy

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@docluthorvondoom said:

@entropy_aegis said:

Yeah well I didn't realize I was gonna go up against a guy named luthorvondoom one day...seriously dude,that whole series is full of WTF moments,I liked it,it's funny and definitely there ARE things from that series that are in continuity all I'm saying is that whatever happened in that book take it with a grain of salt.

Morrisons entire run revolves around the idea that Bruce Wayne and Batman need each other to be effective that's what Batman INC is based upon,if you cant see that then you clearly haven't understood his Batman work.

Batman 89 had nothing to do with the comics,and neither did Justice League Unlimited,they took comic characters and put a different spin on them.

AA and AC just rips off everything from the comics I find them highly predictable,truth be told I feel it's cause Paul Dini is a one trick pony.

Okay, for starters, whether Superman/Batman is canon is irrelevant. I was using it as an example of a common character trait of the Batman mythos. You're the one who said that it's not canon, which miffed me, as I've never heard of that, and you can't seem to provide me anything to go on for that but your word...talk about taking things with a grain of salt.

Also, that's your interpretation of the Batman Inc initiative. It's hardly proof of anything; it can also be interpreted that he sees the Bruce identity as a tool in his arsenal that's not being properly utilized, rather then giving into the identity as a part of him. It's a message of utility, it's also why he draws in his allies closer. Also, I'd like to note, I feel like if your interpretation actually held any merit then he would have spent much more time as Bruce after he returned from his time travel adventure and created Batman Inc; he is rarely ever shown without the cape and cowl from this point in the series onward.

And what does it matter that Batman 89 and Justice League unlimited had nothing to do with the comics? How much ADD do you have? The argument was that a comic book writer can be involved with other forms of related media, and not have it be a direct copy of the comics content....so, essentially, you just agreed with me.

Naturally you're welcome to your opinion about Paul Dini...but, just so you know, you're friggin' wrong.

I honestly dont care how you view Batman,you have your tastes and I have mine.My only problem with your post started when you dismissed a popular and acclaimed version of Batman(and I say this cause things like that seem to matter a lot to you going by your tirade against the Man of Steel) and then claimed that it was not opinion and but a fact.

I interpreted Morrisons Batman just fine,it has Bruce giving a public announcement that he's been funding Batman,and geez obviously he's gonna be running around in his costume. Morrison also acknowledged the Batgrowl(the one which you think is a joke) in Batman #655.But then you'd know if you had actually read the actual comics instead of going by wikis.

Posted by DocLuthorVonDoom

I honestly dont care how you view Batman,you have your tastes and I have mine.My only problem with your post started when you dismissed a popular and acclaimed version of Batman(and I say this cause things like that seem to matter a lot to you going by your tirade against the Man of Steel) and then claimed that it was not opinion and but a fact.

I interpreted Morrisons Batman just fine,it has Bruce giving a public announcement that he's been funding Batman,and geez obviously he's gonna be running around in his costume. Morrison also acknowledged the Batgrowl(the one which you think is a joke) in Batman #655.But then you'd know if you had actually read the actual comics instead of going by wikis.

Yeah, because I obviously don't read the comics, that's how I was able to cite all these references, whereas you where able to do, what, one? Then spend a paragraph patting yourself on the back for it.

Yeah, he makes that public announcement, and then you never see him as Bruce again, except for when he's talking with Fox about gadgets. If your theory really held water, would't Morrison have choosen to show his social life AND him running around as Batman, as is the status quo with most super heroes who have secret identities.

And yes, Morrison does acknowledge the growl, but Morrison was a huge fan of the Nolan movies, pretty much every interview he did around the time of the second movie he goes on a rant about how awesome Ledger was as the Joker. I love Morrison, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says.

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@entropy_aegis said:

I honestly dont care how you view Batman,you have your tastes and I have mine.My only problem with your post started when you dismissed a popular and acclaimed version of Batman(and I say this cause things like that seem to matter a lot to you going by your tirade against the Man of Steel) and then claimed that it was not opinion and but a fact.

I interpreted Morrisons Batman just fine,it has Bruce giving a public announcement that he's been funding Batman,and geez obviously he's gonna be running around in his costume. Morrison also acknowledged the Batgrowl(the one which you think is a joke) in Batman #655.But then you'd know if you had actually read the actual comics instead of going by wikis.

Yeah, because I obviously don't read the comics, that's how I was able to cite all these references, whereas you where able to do, what, one? Then spend a paragraph patting yourself on the back for it.

Yeah, he makes that public announcement, and then you never see him as Bruce again, except for when he's talking with Fox about gadgets. If your theory really held water, would't Morrison have choosen to show his social life AND him running around as Batman, as is the status quo with most super heroes who have secret identities.

And yes, Morrison does acknowledge the growl, but Morrison was a huge fan of the Nolan movies, pretty much every interview he did around the time of the second movie he goes on a rant about how awesome Ledger was as the Joker. I love Morrison, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says.

You clearly dont know the difference between an opinion and a fact that's for certain and you used what? 3 references? suddenly that gives you bragging rights?

I gave you 3 references as well so stop with your knowledgeable than thou attitude, and he doesn't operate out of the costume cause hmmm lets see...it's a SUPERHERO comic.

Posted by DocLuthorVonDoom

@entropy_aegis: Hi pot, meet kettle. As if you don't state your opinions as fact, and have a "holier then though attitude". At least I give examples to support my claims.

So, when you read a Superman, or Spiderman comic, they almost never spend anytime out of the costume then? Is that what you're saying here? You're not even trying anymore, just trying to have the last word because you can't handle being wrong.

Posted by _Atomikill_

I am just stoked for the Deathstroke DLC!!! I really am anticipating the game, but I have the impending feeling it'll be a finale. If so, I hope they make games for other people... won't have the same Bat-feel, but still. Maybe if they were in charge of that Deadpool game, cuz I don't have a good feeling about that. No sir.

Posted by BaneStrokeLoboGrundyBatArrow

Bane!!!! I wish he was playable......

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Posted by FatihBATMAN

agreed!

Posted by MajorMcDuffie

@ama_sama: Lol seriously, Injustice's joker was awful.