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An Analysis of the New TMNT Designs

The upcoming movie has given the heroes in a half shell a whole new look and we're sharing our thoughts on the new designs.

First and foremost, let's start with a disclaimer: I'm going to see the movie and hope for the best. Based on the trailer and TV spot, it doesn't look amazing, but hopefully it'll at least be a good dose of popcorn entertainment. That's not asking too much, right? Okay, now that it's clear the objective here isn't to blatantly hate on the movie, I will admit I'm not the biggest fan around of the new designs.

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There's three key attributes that now define each Turtle: the color of the mask, their signature weapon(s), and their personality. Originally, it was just the weapon and personality since the comics were black and white, but let's be honest: the color masks really help them stand apart and say a little more about who they are. It's a tried and true design that has now lasted decades. Each new version tends to bring little changes while respecting the original design, too.

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A great example is what the current Nickelodeon show has done for each character. The three main attributes obviously remain, but they've added subtle changes to compliment who they are. Raphael's the most muscular of the batch and his shell has a crack -- he's the brawler and the most aggressive, so it's fitting. Michelangelo is the shortest, has a few freckles/spots, and is lean. He's the "little brother" (in terms of personality, at least), so once again, it's fitting. Donatello's the tallest and the leanest, a stereotypical physical trait that's sometimes applied to "nerds," so once again, it makes sense. And Leonardo's the most balanced. Not too tall, not too short, not too muscular, not too lean. Again, appropriate for the character. These changes to their designs do enough to make them unique and stand apart as their own "version" of the Turtles. None of these changes are a drastic departure from the source, either.

This upcoming movie, though? Its several additions to the Turtles just come off as unnecessary to me. Look, I can get past the team being bigger than they usually are. I get it, they're mutants and mutants often grow. Whatever, I'm cool with it as long as they can remain nimble and stealthy. But why does Raphael have sunglasses? "It's because he's cool and a badass!" Okay, but why does a guy who lives in the sewers and likely fights crime at night wear sunglasses? From the little we've seen, he doesn't even have them over his eyes when he's out during the day. Aren't those annoying to have on your forehead when you're flipping around and such? It's a little silly to me, but I'd be a total liar if I said he doesn't look like he'll be quite a powerhouse in the movie.

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Mikey has a necklace, a hoodie tied around his waist and sneakers to make him seem "cooler," but why not focus on showing this through his personality instead of sprinkling him with so much extra gear? If they're ninja turtles, don't they want to wear less stuff so they make less noise and fewer things can potentially hinder their movement? I get Leo's armor is a nod to tradition, but wearing bamboo armor seems a little silly when you already have a shell for armor, yes? Then there's Donatello in his Ghostbusters cosplay. He's wearing something that looks like a Proton Pack. Why? No idea. Maybe it has all of the tools he needs? But again, if they're ninjas (it's in the title for a reason, people), lugging around a huge backpack seems a little counter-productive, right? Then he also allegedly wears stereotypical "geek glasses." So he has bad vision now, too? He's sure to be an awesome ninja!

As for the lips and nose, it's obviously a drastic shift from the norm and is absolutely noticeable with the little we've seen from Mikey and Leo. Truthfully, it looks a little creepy and, as the internet has pointed out several times now, absolutely draws parallels to someone like Shrek. That said, this huge change could serve a bigger purpose. Perhaps they're humans that were mutated? Every new take on the TMNT brings changes to their origin story and it's clear this movie's going to make quite a few. We won't know until the movie comes out, obviously, but that would seemingly be the most logical reason for this huge design change.

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I don't mind if new versions of the franchise want to stray a bit from the traditional designs Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird established. In fact, it's awesome to see so many different incarnations make slight additions to the classic look (I can't praise the IDW comic and the Nick show enough). However, it seems like the upcoming movie looked at the characters and said something like, "Yes, they have the colors, the personalities and the weapons... but let's add at least 2-4 more unique bits of attire to each one!" It feels like they went overboard with accessories and currently, it doesn't quite feel like the four brothers we've come to know and love. Maybe these alterations will be really cool as we see them unfold in context, but for right now, I can't say I'm the most enthusiastic person around about the new look.

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I'm sligHtly disappointed. I was tHinking K4tz was going to be mmore positive.

OH well, MetH believes tHe movie will be DOPE

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Well Michael Bay is known for not giving a damn about source material. IE:silver starscream, Black Ironhide, Silver Sidswipe, most of the movie robots.

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@k4tzm4n said:

@amazingwebhead: Don't worry, I sincerely doubt it'll flop. The show is currently a marketing machine, so I imagine this will lure in A LOT of kids.

Well, if kids today have better taste than modern television programming seems to think they have, then I'm reassured. (At least it's Nickelodeon and not Disney)

Reminds me of when I saw "Revenge of the Fallen" a few years back when I was almost 13. Let me tell you, being almost 13 + movie with Megan Fox = a lot of freakin' sweating.

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@amazingwebhead: Don't worry, I sincerely doubt it'll flop. The show is currently a marketing machine, so I imagine this will lure in A LOT of kids.

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@k4tzm4n: Not at all I care very much how they handle it. So far I like what I see. As a big time fan I think expressing the characters unique personalities via trinkets in there clothing style is not a hindrance at all. I will withhold judgement until I see how there actual personalities are handled.

They are bigger, they are bulkier, no argument there. Maybe they can't enter a manhole, maybe they can. Perhaps they don't enter the sewer via a manhole at all but instead via a drainage outlet. Donnie's backpack seems odd but for all any of us know it might correlate to the plot.

You have me by a few years, I'm from 88 but I grew up with them as well. My point was that growing up with them would make us inclined not to find them creepy comparatively, when in fact they both kinda are. To test this I asked my niece which one was creepy (comparing the old and the new) and she said both are. She doesn't speak for everyone and neither do we so saying either is more creepy is baseless. Also they are literally humanoid turtles. They have enough in common with our structure that I'll give the lips a pass.

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@k4tzm4n: Ah. The popped collar part tipped me off that you were joking, (since they don't actually wear shirts XD) but I wasn't sure. Well, I always had a problem with how the Turtles were rarely (if ever) drawn with noses, yet it never interfered with their sense of smell. And yes, the lips are kind of weird, but without them they'd look too cartoonish. But you're right, starting as humans would be an interesting direction to take the origins. (I always thought it would be cool if the turtles and Daredevil were created in the same accident)

@amazingwebhead: I'm sorry about that! I clicked it on accident. And people have the absolute right to be upset. They do look creepy! I was actually referring the a lot of the youtube comments on the trailer threatening Michael Bay and stuff and acting like he's trying to attack them. I really don't know what to think. I love the new comics, so I have my preferred version and the 2003 show, but I'm really hoping the movie is good.

Agreed. I'm just as worried as anyone that this will flop (not as worried as I am about the X-Men, though) but I wouldn't wish all the hate Bay is getting for this on my worst enemy, and I really do have high hopes for the film.

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@flopsop200: Ah, the old "the concept alone is ridiculous, so who cares how they handle it" argument. Well, as a big fan, I do. There's a difference between making good changes and making changes that seem to add nothing good to the picture -- throwing tons of attire on them appears to be the latter.

No, I'm not joking. They appear to be significantly larger than in the '90 film -- by a few feet, at least, and bulkier, too. In fact, Raphael doesn't even look like he'd be able to make it through a smaller manhole in the city. And Donatello wearing a giant backpack? It's only common sense that would be counter-productive if someone is trying to be nimble.

As someone who grew up with the franchise -- born in '85 -- I can tell you I didn't find them creepy at all in the first two films. Unless they're mutated humans, the changes to their facial structure seems very, very odd.

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@amazingwebhead: I'm sorry about that! I clicked it on accident. And people have the absolute right to be upset. They do look creepy! I was actually referring the a lot of the youtube comments on the trailer threatening Michael Bay and stuff and acting like he's trying to attack them. I really don't know what to think. I love the new comics, so I have my preferred version and the 2003 show, but I'm really hoping the movie is good.

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It's called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. If you can wrap your brain around that concept but find issue with with their accessories and/or them having lips then clearly this movie isn't for you.

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As for them being somewhat bigger then they are normally depicted being a hindrance to there ability to get around stealthily....your joking right?

How is this anymore or less stealthy?

Also they are both creepy looking. The old ones only appear less so because we grew up with them. My 5 year old finds them both creepy but still wants to see the movie lol.

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I'm not sure about their facial expressions looking so human now (even though I kind of knew this was going to happen anyway), but what I'm more concerned about is if they could get their personalities right (Mikey is playful and the comic relief and Raphael is the tough and hot headed member of the team). It would be interesting to see how this movie plays out though. Great article k4tzm4n!

Thank you very much!

I actually like the design of the Turltes in this movie. It's what I've been hearing of the story and their originals along with Shredder thay has me VERY worried :-/

Rumor is the REAL Shredder is located in Japan. I guess think of this as the U.S. branch?

I'm one of like 10 people on the internet who actually likes the Transformers movies. But this movie just looks completely awful. I'm not saying that as a Turtles fan, either. It just looks really, really bad.

Nah, I loved the first one at the time, enjoy the third (could use some major trimming), and despite some terrible editing and humor, at least the finale of the 2nd was enjoyable.

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I don't care about the aesthetics,that,s fine, but they still put lips on them... WHY DO THEY HAVE LIPS?!

This is really my biggest issue. Reptiles...don't have lips.

As for the other aspects, I consider it like the clothing one wears. You dress fitting to your own personality, style, and sense of self. So Raph may not NEED sunglasses, but he likes them. Mikey may feel attuned to the old late 80's-90's skater culture, so he digs hoodies. Leo is obviously the most tradition-bound of the team, so prefers the traditional look.

I get it isn't REQUIRED, but it is reflective of their personalities. Now, I'm sure someone's thinking: "well they're turtles, why do they need clothes?" Well, they don't. But why do most comic book characters do some of the things they do? Well, it's who they are. Who they are written as. Now as to why it was never done before? Who knows, maybe it never came across anyone's mind. Maybe humanoid, talking, ninja-crime fighting turtles was enough. Now that people are familiar with them, you can grow them a little more each time.

I'm not saying I LOVE the designs. I'll always prefer the more original look (although the current cartoon found a fantastic balance, as has IDW) but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't turn me off from the film.

Likewise, but... it's not exactly appealing, either!

Why is Raphael's shell hanging onto his naked back as if not attached to him? It looks like he's got a kiddie pool on his back. Is that just unfinished CGI?

You know, I didn't notice that until you pointed it out and now it's really bugging me.

@k4tzm4n: 1) I don't think they'd find those things as easily in the sewer, but you have a point. 2) I saw the fan-edits, and I just couldn't take them seriously. As much respect as I have for the classic looks, I think the actual design for the movie says "human/turtle hybrid" rather than "anthropomorphic cartoon turtle".

T'was a joke, man ;) Well, yeah, they're fan edits, but the point is if the studio -- with its ample budget and all -- applied that design to the film, I have a feeling it would look better. But, like I said in the article, I'm hoping these lips/noses are at least warranted because they're humans that were mutated. Only time shall tell.

@amazingwebhead:

@amazingwebhead said:

Here's my thoughts:

  • They live in a sewer. The fact that they're dressed up with random stuff like that shows it.
  • Of coarse they put such an emphasis on unnecessarily looking cool. (Like unused sunglasses) They're teenagers!
  • "The lips and noses look creepy". Dude, mutant turtles! Were you expecting them to look like cartoon characters? Everyone else apparently was.

I completely agree with you. I've never seen a Michael Bay movie in my life, so I don't know what to expect, but I don't understand the whole "ruining my childhood" stuff. Unless you're still a child, it's not ruining anything and if you were a child, a movie wouldn't ruin anything, you'd just go play or do something else. Run for your life- MAN BABIES! You don't have to watch it, and maybe some kids will really enjoy it.

I appreciate this article and thanks for your thoughts Gregg!

Yeah, the "my childhood" argument is silly. Literally everything from this franchise is easily accessible right now and no one is forcing people to see this movie or treat it as the new status quo. And you're welcome, thanks for reading!

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"Give in to your hate Katzman. Let it flow through you. Give in to your anger!" You know you want to :P

But seriously excellent critique of the Turtles redesigned costumes. They do look way too clunky and way too overblown on screen to work well enough.

Ha! Thank you.

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Bad, the design looks. Acting, the turtles look okay.

Classic design, they should stick to...

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Awful redesigns, I don't care about their size, being big is ok but all those unnecessary attires are just, well, unnecessary. The feel of the movie looks too Transformer-ish and this is the part that I hate the most. If the villain was Krang, it's a bit understandable but he's not, Shredder and the Foot clan are. Then the part about giving them guns and changing their MO is obviously a plot device to make room for explosions and I hate it.

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Won't be wasting my money on this garbage

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@k4tzm4n: 1) I don't think they'd find those things as easily in the sewer, but you have a point. 2) I saw the fan-edits, and I just couldn't take them seriously. As much respect as I have for the classic looks, I think the actual design for the movie says "human/turtle hybrid" rather than "anthropomorphic cartoon turtle".

Agreed on the second part!

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@baneofdemon22: (You know, you don't need to hit "quote" and "reply") Well given what we know so far about Shredder, I don't blame people for fearing the worst, but yes, that is true.

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"Give in to your hate Katzman. Let it flow through you. Give in to your anger!" You know you want to :P

But seriously excellent critique of the Turtles redesigned costumes. They do look way too clunky and way too overblown on screen to work well enough.

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Am I the only one who thinks the guy who voices Raph sounds very similar to Nolan North?

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@apocalypselater: Man, I didn't notice it until you brought it up, but you are right. It doesn't look like the shell is attached to the plastron (chest and belly half of a turtle shell) In fact now that I think of it I don't know if I've seen a photo of these new turtles from the front... I wonder if they still have plastron's in this version. I hope so because I'm not looking forward to some gross shirtless scene with superfluous turtle nipples...

That aside, the size is (forgive the pun) a very big issue. Yes they are mutants, but they started (at least originally) as tiny box turtles which don't grow to be much larger than a fist, so the mutation making them the smaller side of human size was already enough. And beyond it hindering their stealth I can't even imagine these guys living in the sewer because how on earth are they supposed to get through the man holes? Lastly with each reveal, the origin script that circulated seems more and more alive in this. In that script they were constantly popping their entire bodies into their shells during battle. The bigger they get the more ridiculous that becomes.

And the lips... oh god the lips... It would be something to transform them from a turtle like beak to a reptilian mouth closer to our own, like a lizard's. Or even something amphibious like a frog mouth. But those full on looks like disgusting and if it weren't for the shell on their back I doubt anyone would guess they were supposed to be turtles first

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The sunglasses thing bothers me more than it should because it reminds me of a jerk teacher I had, who always had sunglasses on his head, but never wore them.

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@amazingwebhead:

@amazingwebhead said:

Here's my thoughts:

  • They live in a sewer. The fact that they're dressed up with random stuff like that shows it.
  • Of coarse they put such an emphasis on unnecessarily looking cool. (Like unused sunglasses) They're teenagers!
  • "The lips and noses look creepy". Dude, mutant turtles! Were you expecting them to look like cartoon characters? Everyone else apparently was.

I completely agree with you. I've never seen a Michael Bay movie in my life, so I don't know what to expect, but I don't understand the whole "ruining my childhood" stuff. Unless you're still a child, it's not ruining anything and if you were a child, a movie wouldn't ruin anything, you'd just go play or do something else. Run for your life- MAN BABIES! You don't have to watch it, and maybe some kids will really enjoy it.

I appreciate this article and thanks for your thoughts Gregg!

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@k4tzm4n: 1) I don't think they'd find those things as easily in the sewer, but you have a point. 2) I saw the fan-edits, and I just couldn't take them seriously. As much respect as I have for the classic looks, I think the actual design for the movie says "human/turtle hybrid" rather than "anthropomorphic cartoon turtle".

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More Micheal Bay trash, honestly how can anyone expect something he touches not to suck at this point? He doesn't get the spirit of what made the Transformers classic and I will be shocked to my core if I see this (likely after its theatre run) and it doesn't suck too.

These turtles are the size of a smart car smh.

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Why is Raphael's shell hanging onto his naked back as if not attached to him? It looks like he's got a kiddie pool on his back. Is that just unfinished CGI?

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I already thought the turtles looked over-designed, but seeing them in screenshots is scarier. It makes me fear that Bay and his team are trying too hard to show personality rather than make the viewers feel it.

I think i will still eventually watch the movie, but the designs aren't selling it yet.

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From the clips Raph might look okay but Leo and Mikey definatly dont look right and I didnt get a view of Donnie. Im not expecting too much out of this movie.

What I liked about the turtles is they did not need to be big to kick ass. They need to be small and more ninja like I think.

I really liked the designs used in the Out of the Shadows game.

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and yet I still will probably be going to see it anyway. There is that kid in me that still wants to see it.

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I'm not in love with the designs, but I don't really hate them either.

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I don't care about the aesthetics,that,s fine, but they still put lips on them... WHY DO THEY HAVE LIPS?!

This is really my biggest issue. Reptiles...don't have lips.

As for the other aspects, I consider it like the clothing one wears. You dress fitting to your own personality, style, and sense of self. So Raph may not NEED sunglasses, but he likes them. Mikey may feel attuned to the old late 80's-90's skater culture, so he digs hoodies. Leo is obviously the most tradition-bound of the team, so prefers the traditional look.

I get it isn't REQUIRED, but it is reflective of their personalities. Now, I'm sure someone's thinking: "well they're turtles, why do they need clothes?" Well, they don't. But why do most comic book characters do some of the things they do? Well, it's who they are. Who they are written as. Now as to why it was never done before? Who knows, maybe it never came across anyone's mind. Maybe humanoid, talking, ninja-crime fighting turtles was enough. Now that people are familiar with them, you can grow them a little more each time.

I'm not saying I LOVE the designs. I'll always prefer the more original look (although the current cartoon found a fantastic balance, as has IDW) but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't turn me off from the film.

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I love having things I enjoy raped by the Hollywood money machine. yippeeeeee!

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@opticblast98: I'm in agreement, I feel that the creator stayed somewhat rooted with the original design but added his own flare to the characters. I absolutely like the way they look.

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I'm one of like 10 people on the internet who actually likes the Transformers movies. But this movie just looks completely awful. I'm not saying that as a Turtles fan, either. It just looks really, really bad.

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I actually like the design of the Turltes in this movie. It's what I've been hearing of the story and their originals along with Shredder thay has me VERY worried :-/

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I'm not sure about their facial expressions looking so human now (even though I kind of knew this was going to happen anyway), but what I'm more concerned about is if they could get their personalities right (Mikey is playful and the comic relief and Raphael is the tough and hot headed member of the team). It would be interesting to see how this movie plays out though. Great article k4tzm4n!

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@smart_dork_dude said:

THEY!!!!!!!!!! ARE!!!!!!!!!!! TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They making freaking CRACKS on the ground when they land!!!!!!!!! HOW IS THAT A NINJA?!?!?!??!?!

This is the biggest problem with the movie to me.

same

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@captain13 said:

Teenage Mutant Hobo Turtles :D

You make good points, Katzman, especially since many of these additions are hinderances. While I understand the desire to reflect the personalities of the turtles through their clothes, there was no need for that here. The turtles have been well known since the 1980s, and kids are still familiar with them today. We already know what their personalities are. Maybe the movie will provide a plausible excuse for the additions though. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Thanks, cap!

@jonny_anonymous said:

@k4tzm4n you quick words about Master Splinter?

N/A. We've only had a quick glimpse from the back/side. Won't judge until we get a better look.

@renchamp said:

I love when Katz gets real. Sometimes his words come across as too fanboy for me, but he gets these moments when he seems more objective. Kudos, good sir.

This article mirrors some of my own thoughts. I am definitely headed in with an open mind, but there needs to be some epic stuff going down if this movie is to overcome some of my childhood biases.

YOU'RE A FANBOY.

Um, I mean, thanks! :D

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I completely agree with everything in this article

I completely approve of this comment.

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THEY!!!!!!!!!! ARE!!!!!!!!!!! TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They making freaking CRACKS on the ground when they land!!!!!!!!! HOW IS THAT A NINJA?!?!?!??!?!

Yeah that's my MAIN problem with this movie. Followed by someone not Asian playing Shredder and Megan Fox being involved in ANY capacity

To be fair, that's after Leo jumped off a water tower. I doubt the ground will rumble when they're running around. But yeah, like I said in the article, I just hope they can still convey them as nimble and stealthy when needed.

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Here's my thoughts:

  • They live in a sewer. The fact that they're dressed up with random stuff like that shows it.
  • Of coarse they put such an emphasis on unnecessarily looking cool. (Like unused sunglasses) They're teenagers!
  • "The lips and noses look creepy". Dude, mutant turtles! Were you expecting them to look like cartoon characters? Everyone else apparently was.

Well, if they're cool teenagers, let's give them popped collars, iPhones, backwards hats, etc. So many other versions have shown them as teenagers without filling them with a slew of accessories. Look, I get if they want to wear this stuff when hanging out at home, but when going out on missions and such? Seems very silly.

Oh shoot, they're mutants? My bad, I had no idea! But seriously, they can make a more "realistic" version of them while also staying true to, you know, the facial design that has worked for decades now. Hell, people have already done a small photoshop edit to make it look infinitely better. IMHO the practical costumes in the '90 film worked VERY well and those weren't "creepy."

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I can accept all the extra stuff they wear. I think it's a nice touch. The faces don't bother me At ALL. I think the beaks would be more off putting. That fan fixed version kind of looks too cartoony, closer to Roger Rabbit than other CGI characters. What's killing me is their height. Damn their big.

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Hey Michael Bay someone fixed your Ninja Turtles..... They look so much better now.

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Here's my thoughts:

  • They live in a sewer. The fact that they're dressed up with random stuff like that shows it.
  • Of coarse they put such an emphasis on unnecessarily looking cool. (Like unused sunglasses) They're teenagers!
  • "The lips and noses look creepy". Dude, mutant turtles! Were you expecting them to look like cartoon characters? Everyone else apparently was.
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@smart_dork_dude said:

THEY!!!!!!!!!! ARE!!!!!!!!!!! TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They making freaking CRACKS on the ground when they land!!!!!!!!! HOW IS THAT A NINJA?!?!?!??!?!

This is the biggest problem with the movie to me.

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Well, they are ninjas but also Teenager and that is a huge thing as important as being ninja so it make sense that hey want to use sneakers, hoodies and glasses

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I still think that the best addition to their designs across any incarnation has been the pouches on their belts in the IDW comics

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@captain13: Plausible explanation for the sun glasses incoming:
There are so many Bayplosions in the sewers... he shields his eyesight from the brightness...

But lets be honest... Bay isn't one to take time to make everything plausible... he puts stuff in his movies, and they are there... like Transformers with facial hear, glasses and John Malkovich with a tan...

These things do not need purpose or reason... they are there because the Bay said so.... cause he thought they were cool, funny or trendy or whatever...

I am just glad the new comics are great... and hope for a quick reboot...

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THEY!!!!!!!!!! ARE!!!!!!!!!!! TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They making freaking CRACKS on the ground when they land!!!!!!!!! HOW IS THAT A NINJA?!?!?!??!?!

Yeah that's my MAIN problem with this movie. Followed by someone not Asian playing Shredder and Megan Fox being involved in ANY capacity

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This movie just does not have me excited as a TMNT fan

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It looks bad, really bad. They look huge and the masks are basically rags on their faces with holes to look thru.

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I love TMNT (my fav comic franchise) and I hope this movie will be good and I don't mind the designs, I feel who ever designs the turtles should have creative freedom and I think it shows here

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@k4tzm4n: The new designs are the only things about this movie that I have even liked. Still expecting Leo to cut someone with his sword and cause an explosion though (is that joke old yet?).

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