Who wants to see "Aquaman: Rebirth"?

#1 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe it's just me, but I loved Aquaman. As much as I disliked him for the Superfriends show, the comic's version was indeed a great one, he had everything; respect, considerable powers, a good supporting cast, a badass actitude, etc.

However the character was turned into a squid and later killed (wtf?) putting a new Aquaman in his place to who not many people appealed and that was soon thrown to the shadow.

We've seen that DC has been returning the "most iconic" versions of the classical characters like Green Lantern and Flash in miniseries called "rebirth" that would help establish a new status quo for the character and launch a new ongoing with that character.

Now the questions are: Could Johns and Van Sciever relaunch Aquaman in a way that would help to recover the fame he once had? Should they do it in the first place?

#2 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#3 Posted by lordraiden (6581 posts) - - Show Bio

Most definately :-) I'd love to see a decent writer give Orin the credit he deserves as a long lasting character!

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

agreed, orin was awesome

the new kid well,.....

#5 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter David did wonders for Aquaman in the 90's and I think Mckone did the art. That was a good Aquaman.

#6 Posted by lordraiden (6581 posts) - - Show Bio
Sling Shot said:
"Peter David did wonders for Aquaman in the 90's and I think Mckone did the art. That was a good Aquaman."

Nah, that wasn't Mckone, it was someone along the lines of egleham? something like that, and I loved his art, I thought it was awsome! He even had Lobo tussling with Orin over Dollphins (space)Nighthunter said:
"agreed, orin was awesome

the new kid well,.....
"

Yeah, exactyly, the new kid, ...........! Not really bagging, as I don't like bagging creators/creations, but I really hate it (very much) when they feel they have to do it by running down/over the original! That just really urks me :-(
#7 Posted by Teen Manatee (359 posts) - - Show Bio

Orin was awesome. I really liked the water hand and btw, he should be written like if he swims fast underwater, he should have the same effect on land.

#8 Posted by NightFang (9647 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Most definately :-) I'd love to see a decent writer give Orin the credit he deserves as a long lasting character!"
#9 Posted by lordraiden (6581 posts) - - Show Bio
NightFang said:
"lordraiden said:
"Most definately :-) I'd love to see a decent writer give Orin the credit he deserves as a long lasting character!"
"

Love that Avatar :-) American Werewolf?
#10 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

I wwant Johns and Van Sciever as the creative team of both the miniseries and/or the ongoing sent after that

#11 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

Why bother with Johns when Pfiefer did wonders for the character? That Sub-Diego run was the best thing to ever happen in an Aquaman comic

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#12 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Because I'm still hoping for Pfeifer's return to Catwoman and just the name of Johns would bring the sales that it requires

#13 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Because I'm still hoping for Pfeifer's return to Catwoman and just the name of Johns would bring the sales that it requires"
From what he said, he's not planning on returning. We hung out a lot at Wizard world Chicago, he's close friends with one of my artists. I drunkenly tried to convince him numerous times throughout the weekend to go back to Aquaman.
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#14 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

uh huh...

#15 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

yep
i can even imagine you saying that out loud. The sarcastic, "you're B.S.ing me comes through loud and clear"

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#16 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

yup

#17 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

whatever, I could care less.

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#18 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

you have to admit that it sounds like b.s...

#19 Posted by inferiorego (20587 posts) - - Show Bio

sure does... However, the writer's community is pretty tight and friendly with each other, especially at cons. I could easily make up some B.S. about me hanging out with Jim Lee, but I wouldn't really gain anything. I was simply just trying to answer a question that you were hoping for an answer to, with a incredibly shortened version of a story relating to that. Oh well.

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#20 Posted by Teen Manatee (359 posts) - - Show Bio
inferiorego said:
"Why bother with Johns when Pfiefer did wonders for the character? That Sub-Diego run was the best thing to ever happen in an Aquaman comic"

Yes, dude. His run on Aquaman was awesome. Pat Gleason did spectacular work there ,too.  Pfiefer made amazing characters during his run such as Officer Marley,etc.  And the series really showed how Aquaman his responsible for everything in his teritory.
#21 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love an Aquaman reberth I was realy liking that sub deago stuff an this new guy well lets just say I don't like him

#22 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love an Aquaman reberth I was realy liking that sub deago stuff an this new guy well lets just say I don't like him

#23 Edited by Soviet Black (62 posts) - - Show Bio
Waid/Wieringo Aquaman pitch

R.I.P. Mike Wieringo

Wieringo's Aquaman Sketch


A One-Issue Prestige Format
Mark Waid/Mike Wieringo
Preliminary Pitch/August 3, 2003

By Mark Waid
''I am so sick of people making fun of Aquaman that I'm beginning to take it personally. For the last ten years or so, the way we've been scrambling to combat Aquaman's "Dork of the Sea" image--and I've been guilty of trying this, too--is by making Aquaman increasingly darker, grittier, and tougher, the brooding, angry king beset with trouble. Each incarnation of the character seems grimmer than the last, to the point where all that's left for us to do is give him two hooks. And a peg-leg.

OR--here's ANOTHER thought. Yes, the seas can be turbulent and stormy, but y'know what? Far more often, the ocean is a universal symbol for peace and contentment. It's a calming influence. If it weren't, Bermuda would be deserted and Hawaii would be an industrial trade port. It is most people's "happy place." Yes, the ocean is the set piece for "A Perfect Storm," but it's also the world of "Finding Nemo" and "The Little Mermaid." I have never yet met anyone of any age who didn't come away from Sea World envying the guides who swim with the whales and porpoises. I propose we turn this "grim Aquaman" paradigm around for a one-shot and see what happens. "Test the waters," if you will. I know, I slay me. Anyway....

Our POV character in this story is a female marine biologist--and since Aquaman's turf covers the world, there's no need to make her American. (In fact, Russian is preferable--I've been doing a lot of reading about the culture of Russian courtship, and that could really play in nicely.) At any rate, our biologist--let's call her Yelena for now--may have heard the name "Aquaman" here and there, but to her, he's about as real and significant as, say, German football stars are to you and me.

Yelena's work is done with grungy old equipment and spit-and-bailing-wire technology, the best she has to work with. Her whole world has a gritty feel to it--

--so when this bright, blond, shining knight of a man pops out of the water and into her life, she's addled simply by the contrast.

Their paths cross, she's drawn into an adventure, and to Yelena, this "Aquaman" is, yes, mysterious like the sea--but in a warm, enticing way. To Yelena, he is otherworldly, like a fairy tale character come to life. He rarely speaks (though when he does, he's staggeringly charming), he lives in the water, and he smiles. Constantly. In fact, at first, Yelena has a nearly impossible time taking him seriously. He's like a walking cartoon.

And yet...the more she gets to know him, the further she's drawn out of her world and into his, she'll come to realize that there's something going on behind those wide eyes of his. Looking in them, she sees peace and confidence; looking through them, she's gradually introduced to an underwater world of absolute wonder, a place that is far more colorful and in tune with nature than is her own gritty lifestyle. Once she surrenders to the implausibility of it all, she's rewarded a thousandfold, and so are we. Aquaman's joy becomes her joy becomes OUR joy.

There will be no mocking. NO jokes about how "dumb" talking to fish is. Anyone with a keyboard can make cynical jokes. That's easy. What's harder is reminding you why, when you were a kid, you thought the idea of living underwater or commanding the creatures of the sea WAS cool. We can do that. We can remind you, and Yelena's awed voice will be there to back us up.''

#24 Posted by King Saturn (222808 posts) - - Show Bio
Hell Yes  !  Big Props for Orin 
#25 Posted by mrjoshua (76 posts) - - Show Bio

I would like to see a whole new Aquaman. I like Arthur Curry but I never liked the King Orin years. The long hair and beard and the harpoon arm didn't do it for me. I like aquaman from back in the Golden and Silver Age. Somewhere around the time of Superfriends he lost his appeal and his sense of self. Writers were making him too much Namor and not allowing him to really grow as a character on his own. With different writers and editors he became versions of himself. One moment he's this powerful sea god the next he's this underwater jerk who couldn't keep his kingdom together. He's become DC Comics most tragic figure. He's become less of Superhero if you ask me. Superheroes are people who help others without being obligated to do so. they do it cause it's the right thing to do. Aquaman is only serving his own self-interested most of the time. Aquaman protecting his kingdom is like you or I guarding our own home. Now if Aquaman were jumping up on lnad and stopping a bunch of bank robbers, he'd be a superhero. But stopping Ocean master from taking over Atlanits just makes him someone doing his job. They need to go back and re-work Aquaman so he's a superhero again. then maybe he'd start getting some respect again.   
#26 Posted by Icarusflies (12246 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be good, but Aquaman would need some more good villains. So far he has two: Black Manta and Ocean Master. But if anyone can relaunch Aquaman, it would be Geoff Johns. But I think Francis Manapul would be better for this series, with his somewhat softer style. This would be underwater after all.

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#27 Posted by sora_thekey (8107 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe after Blackest Night all the revived characters will stay alive after the ring is off... 
 
So an Aquaman Rebirth could happen along a bunch of superheroes...

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#28 Posted by NightFang (9647 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey said:
"Maybe after Blackest Night all the revived characters will stay alive after the ring is off...   So an Aquaman Rebirth could happen along a bunch of superheroes... "

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