Aquaman vs. Hawkman?

#1 Posted by jwalser3 (4796 posts) - - Show Bio

I know in the preview we see Aquaman punch Hawkman. But does Waller seriously think Hawkman is going to be able to hang with Aquaman? Is there something I'm missing on Hawkman?

I just don't want Aquaman nerfed for this fight. Or the fight to just become PIS.

#2 Posted by SoA (4689 posts) - - Show Bio

well the nth metal hawkman has can heal and give hawkman a weapon if he he loses one or is tired of H2H , it will make it closer but aquaman should still kick his butt

#3 Posted by jwalser3 (4796 posts) - - Show Bio

But shouldn't Aquaman's trident easily pierce the armor?

#4 Edited by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see Aquaman winning this one quite easily.

@jwalser3 said:

But shouldn't Aquaman's trident easily pierce the armor?

And yea he could. He's been able to pierce through Darkseid's armor and even making him bleed in the process. Aquaman's also been able to break the magical barrier that Dr. Graves' had which was deemed indestructible at the time. His trident will definitely be able to do work in this fight for sure.

#5 Posted by BlackWind (5511 posts) - - Show Bio

Waller is probably overestimating Hawkman. Dude bas some serious damage soak, such as when he aoparently kept on trucking after losing a pint of blood. And I LOVE how his nth metal armor forms its own weapons and gives him a healing factor. But Aquaman just out and out has better feats at the moment.

#6 Edited by Justthatkid (2782 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's a good pair up Martian manhunter can't fight everybody for his team and Hawkman does display strength, speed, flight, and regenerative abilities. I still say Aquaman will win though not enough has been shown for Hawkman to say otherwise.

#7 Posted by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman makes him bow before the mighty king of Atlantis!!! Guy is stronger can tank more and can tag him even in the air.

#8 Posted by Alak (924 posts) - - Show Bio

After what Deathstroke did to Hawkman, I think Aquaman takes this without much effort.

#9 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Done are the "Aqua man is only a fish and can only talk to fish" days.. Woohoo!

#10 Posted by The_Judge_since_83 (39 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been wondering, since Waller first revealed who her choices for each hero were, how in the world Hawkman is going to be a problem for Aquaman. My guess is that he's literally just there to keep Aquaman busy while others fight, with his healing factor, speed, and agility he won't go easy, and every moment Aquaman spends fighting him he isn't helping one of the other leaguers. All in all I don't think Hawkman is supposed to win, just be a distraction which buys time for others do do their job and eventually help him in his fight.

#11 Posted by oceanmaster21 (7742 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman but goodfight tho

#12 Edited by sinestro_GL (3050 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, in pretty much all the match ups of JL vs JLA, I vote curb-stomp for JL.

Just to refresh your memories:

#13 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman is superior in every way except flying.

Hawkman also has crazy damage tolerance.

AQ should win this after an interesting fight.

And most of the pairings between JL and JLA without PIS are on JL's favour.

#14 Posted by Justthatkid (2782 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11: It would be a better fight if it was Katar Hol but then again I don't understand the Savage Hawkman thing.

#15 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@justthatkid: Hawkman seems pretty powerful in the NuDCU, but he has some showings that put him clearly below AQ. Then again he has some impressive ones like the fight with Shaggy Man that might make this fight interesting.

#16 Edited by ViperKing (422 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman's trident can pierce through Hawkman's armor easily. Hawkman is not in the same league as Aquaman but he would be able to hang in there for quite a bit. His strength, speed, flight, and regenerative abilities, combined with his weapons, should allow him to keep afloat. You do realize that the list is lacking of Green Arrow, correct? It is because Catwoman is combined with Green Arrow to face Batman, knowing that it would take two people to face him.

#17 Posted by Justthatkid (2782 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2213 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by sinestro_GL (3050 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by deaditegonzo (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

I kind of think Hawkman would destroy Aquaman in a fight, and I am no Hawkman fan. Is there a reason, besides this being on Aqauman's board, that everyone thinks Aquaman would win?

#21 Edited by Raw_Material (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman wins

#22 Edited by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2213 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Edited by sinestro_GL (3050 posts) - - Show Bio

I kind of think Hawkman would destroy Aquaman in a fight, and I am no Hawkman fan. Is there a reason, besides this being on Aqauman's board, that everyone thinks Aquaman would win?

Please familiarise yourself with some of Aquaman's feats:New 52 Aquaman Respect Thread

#24 Edited by BloodTalon (430 posts) - - Show Bio

All of the ignorance hear makes me sad. These 2 are one of the most evenly matched fights in this story don't let your fanboyness or your fangirlness blinded you to the facts

#25 Posted by deaditegonzo (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

I kind of think Hawkman would destroy Aquaman in a fight, and I am no Hawkman fan. Is there a reason, besides this being on Aqauman's board, that everyone thinks Aquaman would win?

Please familiarise yourself with some of Aquaman's feats:New 52 Aquaman Respect Thread

Ok skipping over that pointless response, can you just say why you think Aquaman would win?

#26 Posted by sinestro_GL (3050 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl said:

@deaditegonzo said:

I kind of think Hawkman would destroy Aquaman in a fight, and I am no Hawkman fan. Is there a reason, besides this being on Aqauman's board, that everyone thinks Aquaman would win?

Please familiarise yourself with some of Aquaman's feats:New 52 Aquaman Respect Thread

Ok skipping over that pointless response, can you just say why you think Aquaman would win?

Skipping over your pointless question, follow the link (complete with plenty of scans)...I attempted to answer your question like a nice user would do...you don't have to be an ass about it.

#27 Posted by deaditegonzo (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

@sinestro_gl said:

@deaditegonzo said:

I kind of think Hawkman would destroy Aquaman in a fight, and I am no Hawkman fan. Is there a reason, besides this being on Aqauman's board, that everyone thinks Aquaman would win?

Please familiarise yourself with some of Aquaman's feats:New 52 Aquaman Respect Thread

Ok skipping over that pointless response, can you just say why you think Aquaman would win?

Skipping over your pointless question, follow the link (complete with plenty of scans)...I attempted to answer your question like a nice user would do...you don't have to be an ass about it.

Linking somebody to a respect thread is pointless. Every character has some feats, but without an actual equal comparison to the other character in question, the feats are useless. If you had linked a "Why Aquaman is more powerful than Hawkman" thread, thatd be different.

#28 Posted by The_Judge_since_83 (39 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: I believe Aquaman would win without too much trouble, but I don't read as much Hawkman as I do Aquaman, I do try to stay current with what all heroes and villains are up to and capable of and nothing I've seen out of Hawkman suggests he could take on Aquaman successfully except as a stalling tool for others. If you have any images, or links or anything that showcase Hawkman doing some impressive stuff, which I'm presuming is why you think he'd win, could you post a link for me please? Or if you just know which issues are good reads that works for me as well cause I can just go pick up the issue, thank you.

#29 Edited by soccerguy951 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: I think the big thing is the difference in their strength level. Aquaman is FAR stronger than Hawkman. For example, in the latest issue, Aqaman picks up and hurls a sunken ship liner at one of his enemies. Aquaman can go rounds with Wonder Woman and Superman. This puts Hawkman at a severe disadvantage.

Aquaman can jump miles in the air (like the Hulk), so he's not just a sitting duck on the land.

And his trident, can pierce just about anything.

Anyway you slice it, Hawkman is the underdog here

#30 Posted by Justthatkid (2782 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that I think about it can Nth metal still disrupt magic?

#31 Edited by Knightfall225 (1720 posts) - - Show Bio

AqaMan would destroy him

#32 Posted by youmessinwithme (1181 posts) - - Show Bio

Physically how strong/ tough is Hawkman? cause this seems like it should be a problem... however the Claw of Horus would KO Aquaman on impact.

#33 Posted by BlackWind (5511 posts) - - Show Bio

@youmessinwithme: @justthatkid: Did Nth metal ever even show that capability in the new 52? Also, does the Claw of Horus even exist in the new continuity?

#34 Posted by batmannflash (6189 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman would win but it'll be a great fight nonetheless.

#35 Posted by deaditegonzo (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: I think the big thing is the difference in their strength level. Aquaman is FAR stronger than Hawkman. For example, in the latest issue, Aqaman picks up and hurls a sunken ship liner at one of his enemies. Aquaman can go rounds with Wonder Woman and Superman. This puts Hawkman at a severe disadvantage.

Aquaman can jump miles in the air (like the Hulk), so he's not just a sitting duck on the land.

And his trident, can pierce just about anything.

Anyway you slice it, Hawkman is the underdog here

I would say Superman at his currently levels should potentially be able to maim either one without any real effort, same with Wonder Woman.

Now Hawkman has less feats these days, but traditionally id say Hawkman and Aquaman make up a similar tier in strength, well below Kryptonians, Wonder Woman, Martians, etc. To be fair though, it is a little presumptive to assume Hawkman is still as powerful as before.

Id say Nth metal is an advantage here, as well as the fact Hawkman has a speed and flight advantage.

Basically, at best imo, Aquaman is slightly stronger, and has a slightly better weapon, id call that a loss most of the time.

#36 Posted by Lvenger (18328 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that it's one of the better match ups between the JLA and the League. Hawkman has the Nth Metal and is slightly faster but Aquaman is stronger and more durable. It would be an interesting fight.

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#37 Posted by cameron83 (6642 posts) - - Show Bio

@soccerguy951 said:

@deaditegonzo: I think the big thing is the difference in their strength level. Aquaman is FAR stronger than Hawkman. For example, in the latest issue, Aqaman picks up and hurls a sunken ship liner at one of his enemies. Aquaman can go rounds with Wonder Woman and Superman. This puts Hawkman at a severe disadvantage.

Aquaman can jump miles in the air (like the Hulk), so he's not just a sitting duck on the land.

And his trident, can pierce just about anything.

Anyway you slice it, Hawkman is the underdog here

I would say Superman at his currently levels should potentially be able to maim either one without any real effort, same with Wonder Woman.

Now Hawkman has less feats these days, but traditionally id say Hawkman and Aquaman make up a similar tier in strength, well below Kryptonians, Wonder Woman, Martians, etc. To be fair though, it is a little presumptive to assume Hawkman is still as powerful as before.

Id say Nth metal is an advantage here, as well as the fact Hawkman has a speed and flight advantage.

Basically, at best imo, Aquaman is slightly stronger, and has a slightly better weapon, id call that a loss most of the time.

Actually,off the bat Aquaman is FAAAR stronger. Hawkman is probably only like 5 tons. However,that is WITHOUT the armor berserker mode.

And with his Nth metal he can create numerous dangerous handheld weapons. Not only that,but he DOES have the flight advantage and his healing factor and savage nature should also keep him in the fight. Although Aquaman may win 6/10,but I think Hawkman can also win. But for the latter fight,it would be more close.

@matchesmalone21 What do you think?

#38 Posted by BlackWind (5511 posts) - - Show Bio

Flight isn't that big a deal if you can't do heavy damage from the sky. And the strength difference isn't even arguable.

#39 Edited by matchesmalone21 (8406 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwind: Actually he can do. Nth metal already showe to be capable to pierce Atlanteans skin without a problem,as he does with Ocean Master using a dagger.

@deaditegonzo: The big problem with Hawkman is healing factor is twice fast as before. Look into the forum New 52 Hawkman respect thread.

@cameron83: Clearly Aquaman has the strength and durability as an advantage,but Hawkman's healing factor and savagery comes to play. People tend to underestimate it by not having many feats, but it was never suggested that he should be at the same powerhouse's level of strength,but still be able to keep match, to them in a matter of durability.

Even the fight in JLA 6 showed that it can withstand any kind of punishment of the most powerful beings and yet keep fighting, not only by healing factor but also by willpower. I'd say that can go either way,more probably to Aquaman.

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