Could Apocalypse be a resident of Utopia

#1 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio

If controlled properly & had no hidden agenda?

#2 Posted by ComicMan24 (147055 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so but you never know.
#3 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7966 posts) - - Show Bio

I strongly doubt this

#4 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

A few points:

  1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
  2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
  3. No
  4. No way
  5. Nope
  6. Not happening.
 
Cyclops was possessed by Apocalypse. If he ever let him set foot on Utopia, I would have to drop the X-books, because that would be some next-level bullsh!t. Even Fraction wouldn't write something that out of character.
#5 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention Gambit just reverted back to Death.

#6 Posted by Edamame (28401 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987: He could be on Utopia. He can shape shift into anyone to look like anyone.
 
@Korg said:
" A few points:
  1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him

Legion or Xavier on Cerebro?
#7 Posted by Jake Fury (19256 posts) - - Show Bio

He could be hiding out as someone on the island. Any suspects behaving strangely in X-Land?
#8 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame: Legion could control him but who would control Legion if he ever got out of control
#9 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
" He could be hiding out as someone on the island. Any suspects behaving strangely in X-Land? "
 
You mean pulling a Mystique like when she was Risty or whatever her name was
#10 Posted by Jake Fury (19256 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987:
Bingo.
#11 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
" @Namor1987: Bingo. "
I want him to be on Utopia him & Sinister would be interesting as hell to see on there
#12 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" A few points:
  1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
  2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
  3. No
  4. No way
  5. Nope
  6. Not happening.
 
Cyclops was possessed by Apocalypse. If he ever let him set foot on Utopia, I would have to drop the X-books, because that would be some next-level bullsh!t. Even Fraction wouldn't write something that out of character.
"
Legion could control him easily.
#13 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame said:
" Legion or Xavier on Cerebro? "
I don't believe either of them could control Apocalypse. Legion can't even control his own selves.
#14 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg:  With that new device I think he could
#15 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987 said:
" @Korg:  With that new device I think he could "
What makes you think that?
#16 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio

He could switch between personalities easier & harness their powers more accurately & put up quite a fight against Apocalypse. He would take Apocalypse to the limit plus he has a butt load of personalities each with different powers so I believe that he were to use kinda like a stick & move tactic on Apocalypse he would be overwhelmed. By  stick & move I mean use 1 power/personality & then swap to another before he has time to know what hit him adapt & counter that power & he'd best him

#17 Edited by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

The only reason Legion can switch personalities at all is because Danger and Xavier have them all divided in his brain, and can put them back in the bottle. Legion himself has no control over them. We also haven't seen much of anything out of any of his current personalities that would do anything to Apocalypse. I think you are overestimating Legion's abilities.

#18 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:

" The only reason Legion can switch personalities at all is because Danger and Xavier have them all divided in his brain, and can put them back in the bottle. Legion himself has no control over them. We also haven't seen much of anything out of any of his current personalities that would do anything to Apocalypse. I think you are overestimating Legion's abilities. "

 Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh) 
#19 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" A few points:
  1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
  2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
  3. No
  4. No way
  5. Nope
  6. Not happening.
"
#20 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987 said:
"  Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh)  "
To be clear: I'm not saying Apocalypse couldn't be defeated. I'm saying he couldn't be controlled. i don't see X-Man controlling him.
#21 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" @Namor1987 said:
"  Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh)  "
To be clear: I'm not saying Apocalypse couldn't be defeated. I'm saying he couldn't be controlled. i don't see X-Man controlling him. "
They could definitely use their powers to keep him check
#22 Posted by Lord Bushido (206 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this what the new X-Force book is gonna be about? Apocalypse, Clan Akkaba, and his new horsemen are on Utopia scheming and Wolverine gets wind of ths.
#23 Posted by kerukun878 (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987: In canon, it was Foxx.
#24 Posted by Dane (10649 posts) - - Show Bio

Only the strong survive.

#25 Edited by Edamame (28401 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987 said:

" @Edamame: Legion could control him but who would control Legion if he ever got out of control "

Xavier or the eventual Hope Summers. Jean Grey/Phoenix ripped Apocalypse out of Cyclops´ body in The Twelve.
 
@Namor1987 said:

" @Jake Fury said:

" @Namor1987: Bingo. "
I want him to be on Utopia him & Sinister would be interesting as hell to see on there "

Miss Sinister is now with Hellfire Club. There is no Mr. Sinister. 
#26 Posted by Edamame (28401 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lord Bushido said:
" Isn't this what the new X-Force book is gonna be about? Apocalypse, Clan Akkaba, and his new horsemen are on Utopia scheming and Wolverine gets wind of ths. "
When does it come out?
#27 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987 said:
"They could definitely use their powers to keep him check "
They've barely ever been able to do that when they take the fight to Apocalypse themselves. Having him on Utopia would be disastrous, and they most certainly wouldn't be able to "keep him in check". Apocalypse would gather new horsemen to him (Gambit would be an easy mark once he returns), and attempt a takeover of Utopia/ the mutant race. They might be able to stave him off, but they couldn't hope to contain or control him. That's just nonsensical. As I first pointed out though, Cyclops would never willingly allow Apocalypse to set foot on Utopia in the first place.
#28 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen?
#29 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Namor1987 said:
" @Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen? "
They are from an alternate reality/timeline (I assume you are referring to their appearance in Avengers #2).
#30 Posted by Namor1987 (1891 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" @Namor1987 said:
" @Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen? "
They are from an alternate reality/timeline (I assume you are referring to their appearance in Avengers #2). "
Kinda the only incarnation with them on it but yeah that's a good team though

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