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    Character » Apocalypse appears in 1782 issues.

    One of the very first mutants, Apocalypse is both thousands of years old and a monstrous tyrant that has been a longtime foe of the X-Men. Apocalypse believes that only the strongest (whether mutant or superhuman) should survive. His body is a mix of organics and powerful celestial technology, boosting his shapeshifting and other powers to god-like levels.

    Could Apocalypse be a resident of Utopia

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    #1  Edited By Namor1987

    If controlled properly & had no hidden agenda?

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    #2  Edited By Magian

    I don't think so but you never know.
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    #3  Edited By Omega Ray Jay

    I strongly doubt this

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    #4  Edited By Korg

    A few points:

    1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
    2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
    3. No
    4. No way
    5. Nope
    6. Not happening.
     
    Cyclops was possessed by Apocalypse. If he ever let him set foot on Utopia, I would have to drop the X-books, because that would be some next-level bullsh!t. Even Fraction wouldn't write something that out of character.
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    #5  Edited By Korg

    Not to mention Gambit just reverted back to Death.

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    He could be hiding out as someone on the island. Any suspects behaving strangely in X-Land?
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    #8  Edited By Namor1987
    @Edamame: Legion could control him but who would control Legion if he ever got out of control
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    #9  Edited By Namor1987
    @Jake Fury said:
    " He could be hiding out as someone on the island. Any suspects behaving strangely in X-Land? "
     
    You mean pulling a Mystique like when she was Risty or whatever her name was
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    @Namor1987:
    Bingo.
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    #11  Edited By Namor1987
    @Jake Fury said:
    " @Namor1987: Bingo. "
    I want him to be on Utopia him & Sinister would be interesting as hell to see on there
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    #12  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg said:
    " A few points:
    1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
    2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
    3. No
    4. No way
    5. Nope
    6. Not happening.
     
    Cyclops was possessed by Apocalypse. If he ever let him set foot on Utopia, I would have to drop the X-books, because that would be some next-level bullsh!t. Even Fraction wouldn't write something that out of character.
    "
    Legion could control him easily.
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    #13  Edited By Korg
    @Edamame said:
    " Legion or Xavier on Cerebro? "
    I don't believe either of them could control Apocalypse. Legion can't even control his own selves.
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    #14  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg:  With that new device I think he could
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    #15  Edited By Korg
    @Namor1987 said:
    " @Korg:  With that new device I think he could "
    What makes you think that?
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    #16  Edited By Namor1987

    He could switch between personalities easier & harness their powers more accurately & put up quite a fight against Apocalypse. He would take Apocalypse to the limit plus he has a butt load of personalities each with different powers so I believe that he were to use kinda like a stick & move tactic on Apocalypse he would be overwhelmed. By  stick & move I mean use 1 power/personality & then swap to another before he has time to know what hit him adapt & counter that power & he'd best him

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    #17  Edited By Korg

    The only reason Legion can switch personalities at all is because Danger and Xavier have them all divided in his brain, and can put them back in the bottle. Legion himself has no control over them. We also haven't seen much of anything out of any of his current personalities that would do anything to Apocalypse. I think you are overestimating Legion's abilities.

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    #18  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg said:

    " The only reason Legion can switch personalities at all is because Danger and Xavier have them all divided in his brain, and can put them back in the bottle. Legion himself has no control over them. We also haven't seen much of anything out of any of his current personalities that would do anything to Apocalypse. I think you are overestimating Legion's abilities. "

     Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh) 
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    #19  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @Korg said:
    " A few points:
    1. No one on Utopia is capable of controlling him
    2. He always has an agenda, hidden or otherwise
    3. No
    4. No way
    5. Nope
    6. Not happening.
    "
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    #20  Edited By Korg
    @Namor1987 said:
    "  Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh)  "
    To be clear: I'm not saying Apocalypse couldn't be defeated. I'm saying he couldn't be controlled. i don't see X-Man controlling him.
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    #21  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg said:
    " @Namor1987 said:
    "  Ok what about X-Man or Iceman or any other living Omega Level Mutant like Rachel Summers (she's in space still huh)  "
    To be clear: I'm not saying Apocalypse couldn't be defeated. I'm saying he couldn't be controlled. i don't see X-Man controlling him. "
    They could definitely use their powers to keep him check
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    #22  Edited By Lord Bushido

    Isn't this what the new X-Force book is gonna be about? Apocalypse, Clan Akkaba, and his new horsemen are on Utopia scheming and Wolverine gets wind of ths.
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    #23  Edited By kerukun878
    @Namor1987: In canon, it was Foxx.
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    #24  Edited By dane

    Only the strong survive.

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    #27  Edited By Korg
    @Namor1987 said:
    "They could definitely use their powers to keep him check "
    They've barely ever been able to do that when they take the fight to Apocalypse themselves. Having him on Utopia would be disastrous, and they most certainly wouldn't be able to "keep him in check". Apocalypse would gather new horsemen to him (Gambit would be an easy mark once he returns), and attempt a takeover of Utopia/ the mutant race. They might be able to stave him off, but they couldn't hope to contain or control him. That's just nonsensical. As I first pointed out though, Cyclops would never willingly allow Apocalypse to set foot on Utopia in the first place.
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    #28  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen?
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    #29  Edited By Korg
    @Namor1987 said:
    " @Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen? "
    They are from an alternate reality/timeline (I assume you are referring to their appearance in Avengers #2).
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    #30  Edited By Namor1987
    @Korg said:
    " @Namor1987 said:
    " @Korg:  So are Anti-Venom & Red Hulk new members of The Four Horsemen? "
    They are from an alternate reality/timeline (I assume you are referring to their appearance in Avengers #2). "
    Kinda the only incarnation with them on it but yeah that's a good team though

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