Edgar Wright Gives an Update on the 'Ant-Man' Movie

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It feels like we've been hearing about a possible Ant-Man movie by Edgar Wright for some time. The lastest word was the movie would see a 2015 release as part of Marvel's "Phase Three" films.

In a recent interview, Edgar Wright gave some updates on the project. What type of feel with this movie have?

It’s a way of doing a superhero film within another genre. I wanted to tell an origin tale in a slightly different way. It’s part of the Marvel cinematic universe, but it also feels like its own piece.

One of the reasons it has taken Wright so long is he wanted to make two other movies first. It may end up being a better movie the longer he waits.

But to be honest, the later I do it, it feels like I could learn more, especially about special effects. It’s a big effects movie, so I’m pleased to go into it having done Scott Pilgrim and The World’s End because you’re always learning more about that side.

Wright also commented about his favorite Marvel movie, in which he responded Iron Man and The Avengers.

It might be hard to wait for this movie to happen but it could be for the best. It'll be important for the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe to continue to develop so that Ant-Man can find his own little corner while having connections to the rest as well. Hopefully we'll start to hear more progress on this as film approaches. 2015 is going to be a crazy year for movies.

Source: IGN

#1 Posted by VictorVonDoom_1 (143 posts) - - Show Bio

So stoked for this.

#2 Posted by revbucky (321 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for the update Tony. :-)

#3 Posted by Trevel8182 (755 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope it's Hank Pym Ant-Man so we can have Hank and Janet in Avengers 3.

#4 Posted by Dernman (19283 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is Hank Pym which I don't think it is then I hope it works out.

#5 Posted by Chaos Burn (1897 posts) - - Show Bio

I have faith in him, his comedy is great, and his action ( e.g Hot Fuzz) was fun too.

#6 Edited by PrinceIMC (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

I have high hopes for this. Set up Hank Pym to be a member of the Avengers. Here's hoping he can put a bit of a Doctor Who spin on Hank. He can be a hero and save people without needing a costume or weapons. They've kinda leaned that way in the past when he was just Dr. Pym with the West Coast Avengers or when he was Wasp leading the Mighty Avengers.

#7 Posted by saoakden (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

Should be interesting.

#8 Posted by Decoy Elite (30159 posts) - - Show Bio

See I like his first quote, I think Hank is a good science fiction hero and you don't necessarily have to stress the super hero part too much. He's the scientist supreme after all.

Hope Janet gets time to shine as well, maybe even her own film.

#9 Posted by RedQueen (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm too excited for this. Like, seriously, cannot wait at all.

#10 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (10656 posts) - - Show Bio

This is one of my most anticipated movies from Marvel!

#11 Posted by MSzekeresh (99 posts) - - Show Bio

I know many fans have been clamoring for Hank Pym but I personally would be more interested in seeing Scott Lang take up the helmet. While I appreciate that he was the first Antman, Pym just never seems terribly heroic to me. Every time I see him in the comics I feel he's either beating his wife, agonizing about how no one forgives him for beating his wife, trying to get back together with his wife, complaining that he will never be forgiven for creating Ultron, complaining that he isn't as smart as Tony, complaining that he isn't as smart as Reed, or sleeping with a Skrull. I would like to see Wasp in the film because Marvel could use more strong female characters in their cinematic universe (particularly one with actual powers) but I don't know if we need Hank. Also if they used Scott Lang they could talk about him as a father and how that motivates him as a hero, something that none of the other heroes have to be concerned about.

#12 Posted by Decoy Elite (30159 posts) - - Show Bio

@MSzekeresh: While I think you have a good point, I think the main thing with Hank's rut is because writers can't seem to let that one moment go. Hank can be plenty heroic but the writers seem to refuse to let him be for the sake of making him "interesting". Same reason they pointlessly killed Janet.

I'd certainly want to see Scott pop up, but I think there's still room for Hank.

#13 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (902 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I like Ant-Man, I don't think his character is recognizable enough to do really well in the theaters.

#14 Posted by Oscars94 (3016 posts) - - Show Bio

Edgar Wright can do no wrong! Just be PYM!!

#15 Posted by weenman1 (160 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought they said it was Lang, Go get your Marvel Premiere 47's!!!

#16 Posted by sora_thekey (8694 posts) - - Show Bio
I wanted to tell an origin tale in a slightly different way.

This worries me a little. Still, I am stoked to see this movie!!

#17 Posted by MurderSlingshot (7 posts) - - Show Bio

I've said it once and Ill say it again, David Tennant as Hank Pym. It'd be great

#18 Posted by kriminal (677 posts) - - Show Bio

i think itll be hard to keep the same cast for 2 more movies so im saying avengers 3 will be more of a new avengers team. villian = ultron

#19 Posted by Icon (2245 posts) - - Show Bio

The idea of this character/movie, where we will see tonnes of real insects up close, kinda grosses me out.

#20 Posted by Reignmaker (2367 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd rather see Scott Lang than Hank. If Thor can succeed, this film can too.

#22 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1581 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's Hank, we'll get Wasp

If it's Scott, we'll get Stature


#23 Posted by Danial79 (2532 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm curious to see how they slot Ant-Man into the existing film universe, but even more so, I'm excited that this could mean Ultron in Avengers 3 :)

#24 Posted by Smurfboy (480 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm very interesting to see this movie. 2015 is so far away!

#25 Posted by butters911 (580 posts) - - Show Bio

@Trevel8182 said:

I hope it's Hank Pym Ant-Man so we can have Hank and Janet in Avengers 3.


#27 Posted by OriginalVenom (32 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArtisticNeedham: Brilliant post!

#28 Posted by Video_Martian (5650 posts) - - Show Bio

I am so freaking excited about this its not even funny, Bring on Ant-Man!!!!!

#29 Posted by YourCounterpoint (40 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArtisticNeedham said:

I hope its Hank Pym and Janet too. I want it to set things up with Pym and Janet and build from that.

I want Ant Man to introduce Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, and have Bill Foster and Scott Lang working in his lab for him. Then I want Hank and Janet, who would be Ant Man and Wasp, to join the Avengers and Hank becomes Giant Man. Then in a solo/spin off type movie, Scott Lang becomes Ant Man. Later down the line, when Hank becomes Yellow Jacket, Bill Foster becomes the new Giant Man. I think Bill Foster and Scott Lang rounding out the cast as Pym's co-workers and friends is a must. I also like the idea of seeing Ant Man's friends, Janet, Bill, and Scott, being sort of his team and tech support for him being Ant Man, not just his friends who don't know. But also this would allow them to transition into taking over for him easier and Janet becomes Wasp, Scott becomes Ant Man, and Bill becomes Giant Man, showing that all their lives are effected by Hank Pym's being Ant Man/Giant Man/ Yellow Jacket. Sort of like how no one can not be effected, or untouched, by their friends being superheroes. In the other thread someone suggeested no Ant Man sequel. But How about Ant Man 1 being hank Pym (who joins the Avengers as Giant Man/Ant Man) while the sequel (Ant Man 2) could be Scott Lang. It would sort of be a transition film. hank leaves being Ant Man to join the Avengers while Scott takes up the mantel to save his daughter. Bill Foster could be in both Avengers with Hank and co star in Ant Man with Scott Lang. So, to over explain:

Ant Man 1: Hank Pym and Janet become the Ant Man and the Wasp, agents of SHIELD.

Avengers (whatever): Hank and Janet join the Avengers. Janet is the Wasp while Hank introduces his new inventions and powers as Giant Man. Because he felt like he had to step things up for the Avneger big leagues. Bill Foster and Scott Lang make cameos.

Ant Man 2: Hank and Janet leave to join the Avengers. While joining the Avengers Hank becomes Giant Man and leaves being Ant Man behind. Scott Lang's daughter is kidnapped and he and Bill Foster try to get her back. Lang uses Pym's Ant Man suit and becomes the new Ant Man with Bill Foster co-starring. Later down the line Foster can take over for Pym as Giant Man, probably after the actor playing Pym leaves the cast of Avengers and Ant Man.

The whole time Hank, since the 1st film, has been working on an AI he started years ago with Tony Stark (leading to Jarvis) and in an Avengers film he finally finishes it (Ultron). I want Pym to have some serious mental illness like in the comics. He could have schizophrenia or something. During a breakdown he uses his own brain patterns to finish Ultron. Ultron becomes the living embodiment of all of Pym's dark thoughts, hatreds to his team and wife, and everything Pym has tried to hide or ignore. Then Ultron creates the Vision, a sort of grandfather failing his son, but can save the grandson type thing. Vision joins Pym and the Avengers in defeating Ultron. The way I see it is that Pym should be this super genius who isn't as big and powerful in the science world as Stark because he gets in his own way. But I think maybe he and Stark together built Jarvis. And together they worked on SHIELD tech. And Tony quite the weapons game but Pym didn't. He has been working with SHIELD this whole time. And all these many years since Jarvis Pym has been trying to perfect AI in his spare time. He creates his Pym Particles, his helmet that talks to ants, and Wasp's powers, all the while still working on the AI project. He ends up joining the Avengers and is still working on it (they don't have to show him working on it all the time, just reveal he has) and then in an Avengers movie he finally does it. Using his own brain patters, and in a fevered angry breakdown Pym finished Ultron. But Ultron's tech is based on the Jarvis tech Pym and Stark built together. That way Pym is still Ultron's father, Ultron is still the son Pym failed, but we also get Stark's involvement. And maybe they can slip in something about the Cosmic Cube/Arc reactor connection. How Stark's arc reactor/Repulsar Rays are based off of the cosmic cube Stark's father found in Cap 1, and which came from Thor 1. Show a subtle connection. Still, the tech was invented by Stark and Pym, but Pym perfected it, and used his own brain patterns as a blueprint for Ultron's mind. Which gives Ultron a stronger connection to Pym. And makes Ultron Pym's fault. I would love, but am not expecting it, to have Wonder Man join the team and be used for the brain patterns on the Vision, making them like brothers. So then you have Hank and Janet, their "son" Ultron, Ultron's "son" Vision, and Vision's "brother" Wonder Man.

Wasp's Stingers: since they will be in the same universe as Black Widow and the other Avengers, they could make Wasp's "Stingers." It could be revealed that Black Widow's "Stingers" were invented by SHIELD scientist Hank Pym, and so Janet uses them as weapons for being Wasp. It would make the worlds connected and smaller in that they don't have two different inventions that don't exist.

To me, Pym is this interesting complex character. He has a real serious mental illness, and needs medication for it. And it starts to spin out of control on him when he joins the Avengers. His feelings or resentment, hatred, self hatred, doubt, sadness, extreme highs and lows, and all that. Its not that he isn't as smart as Reed or Tony, just different. While Tony loves the spotlight, Pym shuns it to the point where it hurts him. And he just can't see that he is as smart as Reed or Tony. Its all in his mind, his perception.

I think an earlier update on the movie mentioned it about Lang with flash backs to pym in the 60's or something.

#30 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourCounterpoint: You're right, but since that reveal, the script has gone through countless rewrites.

Fun fact: Wasp was originally in Whedon's first draft of the Avengers, but was cut out. Whether or not this means that she'll make an appearance for sure in Ant-Man is unknown, but it sounds a lot more likely to me. Also, There's been speculation that the character will make a cameo in Iron Man 3.

Personally, I feel that, regardless of which Ant-Man they'll pick, he'll be making his first appearance in Avengers 2. It'd be dumb if he didn't, if you think about it. It's no secret that he's relatively unknown to the general audience (which is blasphemy, by the way), so if the Ant-Man film will be treated as a spin-off from Avengers 2, a lot more people would be inclined to watch it.

Not that they'd need the persuasion, anyway. Ant-Man's an awesome character that's barely ever given a chance. Mark my words, a lot of the naysayers will be eating their words when we have some substantial footage to look at. Iron Man was unpopular once too, ya know. Anyway, Wright's got my faith no matter what, and hopefully by 2012, we'll be seeing a lot more Ant-Fans around here.

#32 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (3327 posts) - - Show Bio

@Reignmaker said:

I'd rather see Scott Lang than Hank. If Thor can succeed, this film can too.

My thoughts exactly. I never liked Hank for some reason. I liked him very much in Avengers EMH, but outside of that? Not REALLY no

#33 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6958 posts) - - Show Bio

This will be great. Can't wait for it!

#34 Posted by Bushwhacker_ (597 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedheadedAtrocitus said:

This will be great. Can't wait for it!

#35 Posted by FearTheLiving (6381 posts) - - Show Bio

Really can't wait for this, not only is Ant-Man awesome you got a guy working on it that has done some amazing movies.

#36 Posted by Hit_Monkey (1333 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone's saying Hank or Scott. I want Eric!!

#37 Posted by DCWarFan73 (166 posts) - - Show Bio

Glad to see more support for Bill Foster he is a great character and he definitely can fit into the story line as he worked with Hank. I definitely want to see this movie and I really hope Wright delivers the goods. I have been a fan of his since I saw Shaun of the Dead and the amazing Spaced TV series. Please Mr. Wright make an Ant-Man movie that is worthy.

#38 Posted by markslurpee (82 posts) - - Show Bio

Super excited for this movie, and i'd like to see Pym as well.

#39 Posted by mk111 (3148 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO, this film has the potential to be reallu awful if not handled just right.

#40 Posted by pspin (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

This might honestly be the worst MCU movie made, or Guardians of the Galaxy. While it might not be bad from a comic fan's perspective; I can't see this going over well with mainstream audiences.

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