IS THER A ALIEN METAL STRONGER THAN ADAMANTIUM

#1 Posted by OUTSIDER40 (23 posts) - - Show Bio

I herd they is alien metal in the marvel Universe stronger than Adamantium is that true? 

#2 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Vibranium stronger then Adamantium?

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#3 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Isn't Vibranium stronger then Adamantium?"
you stole the words
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#4 Posted by AtPhantom (14461 posts) - - Show Bio

No, Only a vibranium alloy that composes captain america's shield is stronger than adamantium.

#5 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"No, Only a vibranium alloy that composes captain america's shield is stronger than adamantium."
So then Vibranium IS stronger then Adamantium. Cause the only two metals in Cap's shield are Vibranium and Iron.
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#6 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"No, Only a vibranium alloy that composes captain america's shield is stronger than adamantium."
His shield is a mixture of the two i believe.

And no, adamantium is the strongest. Vibranium can absorb impact but deosn't mean that somenone with great strength can't crush it of tear it.
#7 Edited by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio

Accordning to the Comicvine page, its the strongest metal known to man. But the Vibranium that was used to make Cap's shield was alien in origin. Adamantium was created while trying to recreate that Vibranium.
Caps shield is a mixture of Vibranium and Iron. Not Adamantium.

http://www.comicvine.com/adamantium/18-40759/

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#8 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Accordning to the Comicvine page, its the strongest metal known to man. But the Vibranium that was used to make Cap's shield was alien in origin. Adamantium was created while trying to recreate that Vibranium.
Caps shield is a mixture of Vibranium and Iron. Not Adamantium.

http://www.comicvine.com/adamantium/18-40759/"
Thanks Gambler.
Will update my database!
#9 Posted by Marvel Knight (1270 posts) - - Show Bio

Adamantium is more durable than Vibranium. Vibranium though absorbs kinetic force, this allows someone like Cap to take a blast for Cyclops full force and not get pushed back, while Wolverine would go flying. Cap's shield is made from a mixture of Titaium(or steel) and Viranium making it harder than Adamantium.

#10 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio
Marvel Knight said:
". Cap's shield is made from a mixture of Titaium(or steel) and Viranium making it harder than Adamantium."
Are u sure? cause everywhere I check it states that his shield is laced with Vibranium and a iron alloy mixed with an unknown catalyst.
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#11 Posted by Marvel Knight (1270 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Marvel Knight said:
". Cap's shield is made from a mixture of Titaium(or steel) and Viranium making it harder than Adamantium."
Are u sure? cause everywhere I check it states that his shield is laced with Vibranium and a iron alloy mixed with an unknown catalyst."
Yeah I think you are right. I just know its nont Vibranium/Adamantium(except for Ult)
#12 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler - 1

Nobody - 1

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#13 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait guys, what about Mjolnir?

#14 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

what about it

#15 Posted by AtPhantom (14461 posts) - - Show Bio

I presume that the Watchers or Celestials or Galactus know of an alloy stronger than both adamantium and Caps shield, but on earth, nothing beats the shield.

#16 Posted by SuperGamera (565 posts) - - Show Bio

what about Uru like Thor's hammer

#17 Posted by blade hunter (1813 posts) - - Show Bio
SuperGamera said:
"what about Uru like Thor's hammer"

i don't think so, didn't Thor struggle to dent secondary adamantium?
#18 Posted by blade hunter (1813 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"I presume that the Watchers or Celestials or Galactus know of an alloy stronger than both adamantium and Caps shield, but on earth, nothing beats the shield."

in a what if? story wolverine cuts through cap's shield.
#19 Posted by AtPhantom (14461 posts) - - Show Bio
blade hunter said:
"AtPhantom said:
"I presume that the Watchers or Celestials or Galactus know of an alloy stronger than both adamantium and Caps shield, but on earth, nothing beats the shield."

in a what if? story wolverine cuts through cap's shield."
Not canon, Shield is stronger than Adamantium.
#20 Edited by the creator (8559 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's an older handbooks info on Adamantium, that also helps explain Captain America's shield.
Both are alloys, not pure metals. The addition of vibranium enhanced the properties of the Iron alloy, which might explain why Capt America's shield absorbs some portion of an impact (as evidenced by him taking a blow from the Hulk) without being catapulted miles away.

"Adamantium is a virtually indestructible man-made steel alloy which does not occur in nature and whose exact chemical composition is a government classified secret. Adamantium is not an element: its properties do not qualify it for any know space on the Periodic Table of Elements. Rather, Adamantium is a series of closely related compounds of iron created through a secret process discovered by the American metallurgist Dr. Myron MacLain.

MacLain began experimenting with the process that created Adamantium as a young scientist in the employ of the government in the early 1940s. Assigned to create a super-metal with which to build tanks, MacLain labored for month, experimenting with various iron alloys. One of his experiments utilized the rare meteoric ore now known as Wakandan Vibranium. He tried to fuse the Vibranium to the iron alloy numerous times without success. Then one night when he dozed off, some as yet unknown factor entered the process, and permitted the fusion to occur. Upon discovering his success, MacLain poured the molten metal into a disc-shaped mold. The disc, once solidified, has proven to be the most impervious object ever created on Earth. MacLain turned the discover to the government and it was given to Captain America to use as his shield. Neither MacLain nor anyone else has ever been able to discover what was the x-factor that entered the process, or has been able to fuse Vibranium with another metal. (The unknown iron-Vibranium alloy of which the shield is composed resembles True Adamantium, although Adamantium itself contains no Vibranium,)

Over the following decades MacLain experimented, attempting to duplicate the process that create the shield. Finally, in recent years, he succeeded in developing the process by which the substance known as True Adamantium is created. True Adamantium is nearly as strong as Captain 's shield, and is, for all practical purpose, indestructible. The degree of impermeability varies directly with the thickness of the Adamantium. A direct blow from Thor's hammer, conveyed with the thunder god's full strength, will slightly dent a solid cylinder of True Adamantium. A sufficient mass of Adamantium could survive a direct hit from a nuclear weapon.

Adamantium is created through the mixing of certain chemical resins whose composition is a government secret. For eight minutes after the resins are mixed, the Adamantium can be molded into a particular shape as long as it is kept at a temperature of 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit. After this brief period the process of creating Adamantium is completed. The extremely stable molecular structure of the Adamantium prevents it from being molded further, even if the temperature remains high enough to keep it in liquefied form. Only a device celled a Molecular Rearranger can alter the form of hardened Adamantium.

The government has shared the secret of Adamantium's composition with certain of its allies, and the secret has also fallen into the hands of various criminals, such as the Constrictor, who has made special weaponry from Adamantium. Wolverine possesses artificial claws made of True Adamantium and his bones have been fused with Adamantium in an unexplained manner so as to greatly increase their tensile strength. The outer portion of the robotic body of Ultron is also composed entirely of True Adamantium, although Ultron's inner mechanisms are not.

Adamantium is extraordinarily expensive to produce. Therefore, certain parties who wish to use Adamantium on a large scale have resorted to utilizing a similar but somewhat weaker compound similar to True Adamantium called Secondary Adamantium. Although Secondary Adamantium is still far stronger than even titanium steel, it can be destroyed by sufficiently great amounts of force. Blastaar's energy discharges and the vibratory force created by the Overkill Horn have both proved able to destroy Secondary Adamantium. The sentient computer known as F.A.U.S.T. had a casing made of Secondary Adamantium which Thor and Iron Man managed to destroy. The Red Skull and the original Hate-Monger had a dome of Secondary Adamantium constructed to protect their island fortress but the dome was destroyed by the vibratory force of the Overkill Horn and by powerful incendiary bombs."


As for Uru, the ore that Thor's hammer, Mjolnir, is made from it is an incredibly durable 'metal' that holds enchantments well due to it's affinity for magical energy.
Odin's enchantments on the hammer increased the durability of the hammer many times over so that it is one of the few materials known that can damage adamantium (if backed by sufficient force) without being damaged in the impact.

Vibranium is a super durable metal in it's own right and would be comaparable to some existing super alloys of today, having an very high melting point, be super strong (without being overly dense) and has the benefit of absorbing kinectic forms of energy. It is not however more durable than Adamantium as it can still be melted, bend by applied form, rendered brittle and can be slagged by energy forms other than kinectics.

#21 Posted by onegalactis (2 posts) - - Show Bio

the question here is what happens when an unstoppable force, meets an unmovable/indestructible object.. kinda like the big bang going off inside a neutron star. this is one of those things that even our imaginations cant fathom.

#22 Posted by mdayschaos (13 posts) - - Show Bio

i read that vibranium is stronger then adamantium in a book of wolverine facts

#23 Posted by xerox_kitty (15760 posts) - - Show Bio
@mdayschaos: That depends on what your source is.  There have been many books on Marvel characters, but not all have been official products from Marvel.  If the book you read was a non-Marvel publication then generally people wont accept that as canon.   
 
Personally, I'm surprised that there aren't more 'indestructable' metals in the Marvel universe.  Considering that Adamantium & Vibranium are meant to be rare, they're pretty commonly used.  I'd expect scientists in the Marvel U to have discovered a couple of other strong metals while searching for more affordable reaplcements for Adamantium & Vibranium.
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#24 Posted by kore (373 posts) - - Show Bio

The metal in Cap's shield is the strongest, pure adamantium is second. Uru can be broken, Thor broke Mjolnir on a Celestial.

#25 Posted by Handcannon (544 posts) - - Show Bio

Dargonite chipped adamantium i think

#26 Posted by cpt_linger (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

There is what is in my pants :-)
#27 Posted by SUPERdeathSTROKE (3 posts) - - Show Bio

not alien but im sure Amazonium is?

Amazonium is the metal that makes up Wonder Womans bracelets The bracelets are made from Zeus shield

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