Adamantium, I would guess. The only substance I've seen in Star Wars that can compare with it for pure strength is the quantum-crystalline armor on the Suncrusher, and that stuff cost as much to produce as the entire Death Star.
Adamantium
Object » Adamantium appears in 2747 issues.
A virtually indestructible man-made metal. The strongest metal known. Unbreakable and razor-sharp, it cuts through steel like a paper. Without a healing factor it is poisonous inside the body.
Adamantium vs. a Lightsaber
Right, i am an xman fan above anything.
But i thought that you could heat adamntium up to liquid, but once cooled then it's indestructable?
I'm suggesting that lightsaber could kinda, well, melt the adamantium eventually if they were locked in battle.
Though Wolverine would kick some serious butt against a jedi, he's the best at what he does!
if you actually were a star wars fan you would know that the only thing that could stop a light saber is another light saber or the force!
Lantern Prime says:
"Lightsaber can cut through any substance."
no it can't...
there are 3 metals in the Star Wars universe alone that it can't cut though...
i did post a huge post on this in one of the Wolverine Vs (Random sith or jedi name) and it was pretty much agreed that a Lightsaber wouldn't slice through Adamantium easily, but it would cut through it after time... depending on how much pressure was put on the blade.
much like how the Lightsabers cut through bulkhead doors, it would take time but it would do it.
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4 to 5 minutes... maybe less because Wolverine's claws aren't solid Adamantium...
in the meanwhile the metal would be heated to amazing temperatures just from touching the lightsaber which would conduct around him body basically boiling him from the inside out.
Solid "pure" adamantium, maybe 6 to 7 minutes dependent on the thickness
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kuchiku says:
"you fools a lightsaber is a laser it would bounce of the adamantium the silver samuria's sword could not penetrate the metal i doubt the saber could."
you dont know much about Lightsabers do you?
i go with methos(as nearly always)
plus this adamantium vs. lightsaber, not wolverine vs. Darth vader, so it mens i suppose if you test the theory by pressing one another against each other lightsaber eventually cuts through.
i suppose if it was in SWU lightsaber wins but in MU adamantium wins.
I have to go with Fennewalde,
I think that adamantium would be able to deflect a few blow, but prolonged exposure to a lightsaber's blade would leave alot of damage, if not eventually break it.
"if you actually were a star wars fan you would know that the only thing that could stop a light saber is another light saber or the force!
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I I thought that it has already been established that there are a few things in the SWU that can deflect a lightsabre. Me personally, I think they would cancel each other out. Neither wins.
Adamantium would eventually prevail
alls you have to do is destroy the lightsabers emitter (handle) or destroy the crystal that powers it
I agree with Methos on the main concept, but I have to disagree on a few points.
One, the theory that a single slash of a lightsaber would transfer enough heat to an object to superheat it enough to cause burns is either limited or false. We have seen many people in various SW canon fight with sword and things and none of them received instantaneous burns from heat transfer. Though no as hot, I compare this theory to a firing pan on a hot stove, unless you
are using a pan that s made from material that conducts heat especially well, it takes continual heat to warm the pan and it's contents. From the punishment we've seen adamantium take, I highly doubt that it has a high rate of heat transfer. I also point out scenes like that Qui-Gon Episode 1 scene where lightsabers are used as cutting implements, we see melted orange glowing metal for less than an inch from the incision, while surrounding metal is unscathed. This leads me to believe that lightsabers do not leak heat into a broad area, but rather only transfer heat to molecules that are in close contact to the blade. I do agree however, that if held in contact with an adamantium skeleton for a prolonged amount of time, it may be able to transfer high temperatures through that adamantium plated bone, and any bone directly touching it. I have questions as to how well it would transfer heat through tissue to the next bone and the next and so forth.
Two, I seem to recall hearing about some scene in some book where Luke and Mara are trying to cut Cortosis or something and , while they eventually do, run into the problem of frequent glitches in their sabers, causing the blade to turn of and 'die' for a few seconds, minutes. This would definitely turn the tide in a battle, but of course, this is merely a topic of the two elements (The blade and the metal). I don't know if this actually changes the outcome of the metal vs blade fight, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Three, according to the Comicvine page on adamantium, assuming this site is accurate, it claims anti-metal releases vibrations that can melt true adamantium. It could be theorized that lightsabers release similar vibrations that allow it to cut metal, using comparably low temperatures (as in 300-500 degrees) to simulate the melting of metal, but not actually operate in that way. This could mean that cortosis, phrykk, etc, merely absorb vibrations better than most metals. This being the outandish 'just throwing it out there' theory.
Overall though, I have to give you props, Methos. You pretty much nailed it.
"um nothing can destreoy adamantium but powers like mAGNETO can take it away
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Actually You're wrong Because look at the Hulk issue where he fought onslaut Onslaught's Armor is much more Stronger than Adamantium And Hulk destroyed it with a few blows. Point Made.
"kuchiku said:I don't know where you get your info but I am pretty sure that Onslaughts armor is not much stronger than true adamantium."um nothing can destreoy adamantium but powers like mAGNETO can take it away
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Actually You're wrong Because look at the Hulk issue where he fought onslaut Onslaught's Armor is much more Stronger than Adamantium And Hulk destroyed it with a few blows. Point Made."
"kuchiku said:I don't know where you get your info but I am pretty sure that Onslaughts armor is not much stronger than true adamantium."um nothing can destreoy adamantium but powers like mAGNETO can take it away
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Actually You're wrong Because look at the Hulk issue where he fought onslaut Onslaught's Armor is much more Stronger than Adamantium And Hulk destroyed it with a few blows. Point Made."
It depends on the melting point of adamantium, but a light saber has never been matched that i know of so i think a light saber could possibly melt adamantiun
"Star wars doesn't use lasers, they use turbolaser technology, which is very very different from lasers, for example you can see a turbo laser from behind, you can't do that with a laser, turbolasers explode, lasers don't, turbolasers can create flak clouds, lasers cannot, turbolasers have barrels not focusing lenses, a single turbolaser bolt from an republic acclamator class assault ship has the same energy as a 200 gigaton of tnt equivalent explosive, a laser that released the same amount of energy would be far far far larger than an acclamator.you fools a lightsaber is a laser it would bounce of the adamantium the silver samuria's sword could not penetrate the metal i doubt the saber could.
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"um nothing can destreoy adamantium but powers like mAGNETO can take it away
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Captain America's shield is made of adamantium and it has been destroyed many times the only anamantium that is
This all depends on how you look at it. Are we talking a blade of adamantium or a block and are we talking in a fight or just cutting?
There are quit a few things that a lightsaber can't cut in the SWU. each of them for different reasons. Some of them short out the lightsaber because they are durable enough and have the ability to get between the arc of the blade. If adamantium was like this then a lightsaber could never cut through it. I believe that it is not like this though. If we are talking about a person with a lightsaber fighting a person with a sword made of adamantium I say the sword would be able to block the lightsaber but only for so long. If we have somebody trying to cut an adamantium block in two it would take a long time but could happen. Adamantium can be melted with a hot enough temp but the melted metal still wants to stay together on a molecular level. This is why it is so strong. A lightsaber would be able to heat the metal with enough time and due to the lightsaber being able to repel most substances away from the arc of the blade (which is what prevents them from shorting out when cuting through say a blast door) and therefore would probably be able to force the liquid adamantium to seperate and therefore would cut through the block.Tis would take much time though and strength behind it too. You would need a person forcing the lightsaber down through the block of metal. Depending on the amount of adamantium it might take to long for the person as it is believed that the lightsaber could cut through phrik metal (the metal the staffs of Grievous's bodyguards are made of) would be cut through in years of contact. If we look at adamantium the same way the person with the saber would die after a long enough time and if adamantium was durable enough could outlive the battery of the lightsaber. Therefore I say that a lightsaber could cut through adamantium given enough time and force but even if these existed in the same universe nobody with the lightsaber would stay and try and cut say a door of adamantium but rather look for a different place to cut through. This is only my opinion though and don't say I am just a Star Wars fan and don't care about Marvel because I am a fan of both.
As Light sabers are a plasma blade not a laser beam it could defiantly heat the adamatium. That said Cyclops shoots a plasma discharge capable of leveling a mountain and has been unable to affect Wolverine's bones.
Additionally lightsabers are not able to cut through every thing there is at least 2 minerals one is a metal in the starwars universe that are impervious to the lightsabers abilities.
So the answer is NO a lightsaber would not work against it.
I disagree but then again you may be using a different definition than I am of Plasma. Plasma is the 4th state of matter. In fact the exact definition is. In physics and chemistry, plasma is a partially ionizedgas, in which a certain proportion of electrons are free rather than being bound to an atom or molecule. The ability of the positive and negative charges to move somewhat independently makes the plasma electrically conductive so that it responds strongly to electromagnetic fields. Plasma therefore has properties quite unlike those of solids, liquids or gases and is considered to be a distinct state of matter. Plasma typically takes the form of neutral gas-like clouds, as seen, for example, in the case of stars. Like gas, plasma does not have a definite shape or a definite volume unless enclosed in a container, but unlike gas, in the influence of a magnetic field, it may form structures such as filaments, beams and double layers.
Which arguably would be a concussive force. As plasma can be made to rend steel.
"I disagree but then again you may be using a different definition than I am of Plasma. Plasma is the 4th state of matter. In fact the exact definition is. In physics and chemistry, plasma is a partially ionizedgas, in which a certain proportion of electrons are free rather than being bound to an atom or molecule. The ability of the positive and negative charges to move somewhat independently makes the plasma electrically conductive so that it responds strongly to electromagnetic fields. Plasma therefore has properties quite unlike those of solids, liquids or gases and is considered to be a distinct state of matter. Plasma typically takes the form of neutral gas-like clouds, as seen, for example, in the case of stars. Like gas, plasma does not have a definite shape or a definite volume unless enclosed in a container, but unlike gas, in the influence of a magnetic field, it may form structures such as filaments, beams and double layers.Thanks for the wiki post. Cyclops' blasts are not plasma. They are pure kinetic force. Kinetic force that is extra-dimensional in nature.
Which arguably would be a concussive force. As plasma can be made to rend steel.
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"Bob-A-Ferret said:true. It has been said a number of times cyclops blasts do not admit any heat only concussive force. Plasma would admit an extreme heat, which could possible melt Wolverine's adamantium. I'm just going off of the X2 movie and an educated guess, but since the only way to mold/shape or graph adamantium onto someone would be to super heat it, than the extreme heat of plasma would definitely be able to do this."Wiki entry on plasma"I know what plasma is. Scott's eyes do not emit plasma."
I disagree with you as I have several references of it as being plasma in my collection. So Agree to disagree. Regardless this thread is about lightsabers not cyclops so move on. the point is valid regardless of how you wan to look at it.
"I disagree with you as I have several references of it as being plasma in my collection. So Agree to disagree. Regardless this thread is about lightsabers not cyclops so move on. the point is valid regardless of how you wan to look at it.could you post a scan or give me a link, because I am almost certain scotts blasts admit no heat.
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I have to say I am amazed at how you find yourself to be the ultimate authority on cyclops visor and blasts.
Do any of you work for marvel or have ever worked for them? (I have)
Or have you just decided that no one can differ in opinion?
I amazed at your audacity and rudeness.
I still disagree as I have several comics that refer to cyclops blasts being plasma. When I worked at at Marvel it was not decided what it actually was made of. Then again at that time wolverines claws where still implants not natural bone. But the science in comics is infallible and a constant, so you opinions may be valid at one point or in some point to come. But I disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinions. And actually I will make the note that Sinister's skin boils after being blasted by Cyclop's blast that is usually a sign of heat and there is more references like that if you care to look. He has also cauterized a wound on more than one occasion but concusive force does that right? And again this is not about Cyclops blast this is suppose to be about light sabers and adamantium. But you care to bicker more than discuss.
"I have to say I am amazed at how you find yourself to be the ultimate authority on cyclops visor and blasts.thats the frictional force from the blast that causes the thermal energy. And Sinister has a weird biology so I am not counting that.
Do any of you work for marvel or have ever worked for them? (I have)
Or have you just decided that no one can differ in opinion?
I amazed at your audacity and rudeness.
I still disagree as I have several comics that refer to cyclops blasts being plasma. When I worked at at Marvel it was not decided what it actually was made of. Then again at that time wolverines claws where still implants not natural bone. But the science in comics is infallible and a constant, so you opinions may be valid at one point or in some point to come. But I disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinions. And actually I will make the note that Sinister's skin boils after being blasted by Cyclop's blast that is usually a sign of heat and there is more references like that if you care to look. He has also cauterized a wound on more than one occasion but concusive force does that right? And again this is not about Cyclops blast this is suppose to be about light sabers and adamantium. But you care to bicker more than discuss.
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erik said:
"Well I gave you a Marvel reference that refutes your theory on Cyclops' optic blasts. "your not talking to me right?
"Ok first a Lightsaber is just a super hot beam that burns anything it touches sooooo that means that adamantium would just go straight through a lightsaber because its indestructibe, so Adamantium wins.yea but according to and only according to the X-2 movie. When heated Adamantium melts/becomes liquid. The movie said Adamantium was virtually indestructible but not indestructible. In the comic universe to my knowledge Adamantium is indestructible. But going by the movie I would say a light-saber should be at least able to melt if not cut adamantium.
BTW wayyyy old thread
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