captain america vs. omega red, u-foes vs. fantastic four, magneto vs. alpha flight, thanos vs. captain universe, quasar vs. satannish, joker vs. the flash, spider man vs. death, general zod vs. captain marvel, the eternals vs. the imperial guard, despero vs. young justice, dr. strange vs. malekith the accursed, the red skull vs. venom, x-men vs. the masters of evil, frightful four vs. namor, dracula vs. the hulk, thor vs. champion, silver surfer vs. dormammu, mordru vs. doomsday
Acts of Vengeance
Loki schemes to destroy the Avengers and many of the world's other heroes by recruiting super villains he dubs The Prime Movers: Magneto, Kingpin, Mandarin, Wizard, Dr. Doom, and the Red Skull. All of them are tasked with attacking heroes they normally would not.
Hero and Villain Matchups
Its been done, but:
Deathstroke versus Batman
and I would love to see Batman versus Flash's Rogues. They did it in the JLU cartoon, and the Brave and the Bold Cartoon, but not to a great extent or in the comics as far as I know.
I would like to see Captain Marvel take on some bigger foes. I think he (and Martian Manhunter) are the most underutilized big-time characters in the DCU. I mean, he's Earth's Mightiest Mortal!
However, I don't really care much for Cap's supporting cast as I like the idea of a young 'tween Billy Batson (like in the recent Superman/Shazam animated short that came out).
It would be cool to see a Darkseid story where he's invading Earth and Captain Marvel is the last line of defense as opposed to Superman.
" @chalkshark: Thanks for the info. That fight in particular is one I'd like to see. Iron Man for all his technology and intelligence wouldn't be able to stop Magneto ripping his armour off him like paper. So he'd have to think of a completely original strategy to beat him. It would make for a pretty cool fight imo. There are plenty of other matchups I want to see but I can't think of them for the life of me. They only spring to mind once I actually see them so I'll have to wait a while before I remember some "I've heard Iron-Man's armor is made of a material that isn't magnetic.
Spider-Man vs. Lex Luthor
I would like to see Spider-Man foes challenge Fantastic Four, X-Men, Young Avengers and Runaways,
Wonder Woman foes and Green Lantern foes against the Teen Titans.
Daredevil vs. Dr. Octopus (WAY back in DD Vol.1 #165)
I know its been done before but i always love the idea of stark vs doom, just the thought of so much tech based craziness happening makes me get all hysterical and happy.
I'm going to be doing this all the time in my fanfic photocomic series, once I get it up and running. Get a load of these example matchups (fanvoicecasts included):
-Nemesis (DC, Gabriel Macht) and Black Widow (Famke Jannsen) versus Cobra (the GI Joe enemy).
-Blue Beetle (Ted Kord, Steve Zahn) and Bumblebee (Transformers, Dan Gilvezan) vs Big Wheel (Michael Des Barres).
-One BIG one made up of trios: Vixen (Gina Torres), B'wana Beast (Peter Onorati), Animal Man (James Woods) (Justice League); Black Panther (Keith David), Tigra (Lenore Zann), Wolverine (Cal Dodd) (Avengers); Recondo (Bill Morey), Spirit (Gregg Berger), and Firewall (Danielle Judovits) (GI Joe); and finally, Ramhorn (John Hostetter or Fred Tatasciore), Leobreaker (Blu Mankuma), Airazor (Vanessa Marshall) (Transformers). These four trios are sent to take out an operation run by Shadowloo, the enemy organization in Street Fighter.
-The Marvel Family and the Mar-Vell family vs the Marvel Comics version of Galvatron (the cuckoo time-lost version).
-Deadpool (Michael C. Hall) and Cammy from Street Fighter (Lisa Ann Beley) vs another enemy organization from the GI Joe mythos, the Red Shadows.
-A subsitute Fantastic Four made up of MOTU's Fisto, Pumyra from Thundercats, Street Fighter member Dhalsim, and the Autobot known as Drift, vs Helspont when they travel to Earth-W, the home universe of the Wild CATS.
-Godzilla, Atom Smasher (Jason Biggs) and Stature (Jamie Lynn Spears) vs N.M.E. after he gets plucked out of Earth-M (the home universe of Ultraforce).
Okay, and if you're wondering "Is this guy obsessed with voice acting or something?", no I'm not, I just think it happens to be a healthier way to salvage a person's career, and there' s less pressure. Well, save for the late Chris Latta (may he RIP).
I think some of the ones I'd like to see would be cross universe, as in Marvel vs. DC. But, keeping it within the realms of what could actually be written, definitely Scarlet Witch vs. Doctor Strange. I'm a huge Strange fan, and at some point they've both basically wielded unlimited power. I'd love to see what they could have done at the top of their skills, one on one, battling over the fabric of reality.
Alan Davis flashback!
Great topic, excellent discussion, loved it! Perhaps the comic book publishers may take a cue from this and use these ideas.
I know that Spidey has often battled villains who've been tied to other heroes, but I am hard pressed to think of any other heroes who have fought other villains they usually don't. Well, the X-Men have as well, but its been sporadic at best.
Love the Doc Ock idea, and agree, why not pit Circe against Superman? Flash's Rogues against Batman is another fantastic idea!
Juggy VS. Power Pack; OK, G-Man, someone has issues. Ha! Mass Master might be able to do something against Juggy--NOT.
Great video guys. :0)
Deadpool vs. Deathstroke
Superman vs. Blue Marvel vs. Gladiator (Marvel)
Batman vs. Moon Knight
Hulk (Worldbreaker) vs. Doomsday
Hawkeye vs. Green Arrow
Captain America vs. Guardian (DC)
Doctor Strange vs. Doctor Fate
Thor vs. Orion
Norman Osborn vs. Lex Luthor
Martian Manhunter vs. the Vision
Darkseid vs. Thanos
Namor vs. Aquaman
Brainiac vs. Iron Man
Impossible Man vs. Mister Mxyzptlk
" @chalkshark: Thanks for the info. That fight in particular is one I'd like to see. Iron Man for all his technology and intelligence wouldn't be able to stop Magneto ripping his armour off him like paper. So he'd have to think of a completely original strategy to beat him. It would make for a pretty cool fight imo. There are plenty of other matchups I want to see but I can't think of them for the life of me. They only spring to mind once I actually see them so I'll have to wait a while before I remember some "
Actually in What If #61 (vol. 2) What If Iron Man had sold out?
Dealt with this. With the Iron Man technology plundered when the Government opened the doors for other countries, there was no age of heroes.
Tony became more and more withdrawn until Magneto leading a charge of his acolytes finally brings him out (the sentinals had basically wiped out mutants) of hiding. Tony has a non ferrous Iron Man suit and absorbs Magnetos energy and he is able to physically crush Magneto's force field.
"Magneto < Iron Man Just saying. "
I know its the Ultimate Universe, but this fight does happen in Ultimatum.
I would like to see Kraven vs Wolverine, Doctor Fate or any other DC Magic-using good guy vs Lex Luthor, and Namor vs Loki.
Obviously, there are a lot of fights between heroes and villains that would be interesting. However, as I see it the two main issues in mixing up hero villain pairings are proximity and motivation. While Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor live in different cities, they are both businessmen so I can see Bruce Wayne trying to take out Lex Luthor in a way that would keep Lex from becoming a threat in the future. As a villain, if you are on a crime spree, you would likely target multiple cities. For example, the Joker could wind up fighting several of the DC heroes.
" @chalkshark: You forgot oneDD is too smart for Oc, i mean true Oc's a SCIENTIST and has more arms, but as a martial artist, or basically a FIGHTER, DD has..., STREET smart? He could stay away from the banging, he could hide right under Oc's nose,...only reason Spidey finds oc as a challenge is Spidey maybe a great Acrobat but he's no DD....BUT OC's REAL STRENGTH lies in his INVENTIONS. He should identify DD's weakness and take him out.
Daredevil vs. Dr. Octopus (WAY back in DD Vol.1 #165)
"
Circe vs Superman, yeah most men's weakness is a woman
Roger Stern used to do a great job of having Spidey fight new foes, like Juggernaut, Cobra, Mr.Hyde, Nitro, etc. The man was ahead of his time, apparently. :)
I hope to see Spidey battle more Fantastic Four villains what with him now joining the FF.
I'd like to see Batman face off against Superman's most powerful cosmic powered villains like Darkseid, Mongul, or even Doomsday!
.... oh wait. He has!!!
But there's no way a mere mortal like Bruce Wayne can live through that... right?
.... oh wait. He's done that too!
It's called reading issues of Superman/Batman.
I like when they mix match supervillains with different heroes.
It already happened often with Spider-man villains and characters like the X-men, Daredevil, Deadpool, etc..
Well, those are classic super villains.
But I'd like to see it more often with the likes of the Flash's Rogues, Bat-villains, Daredevil foes, etc..
Superman vs. Doctor Doom Captain America vs. Ra's Al Ghul
Superman vs.Thanos Captain America vs. Deathstroke
Batman vs. Red Skull Thor vs. Mr. Mxyzptlk
Batman vs. Kingpin Thor vs. Black Adam
Green Lantern vs. Apocalypse Iron Man vs. Sinestro
Green Lantern vs. Terrax Iron Man vs. Lex Luthor (in Green Armor)
Flash vs. Carnage Spider-Man vs. Professor Zoom
Flash vs. Immortus Spider-Man vs. Doctor Phosphorus
Wonder Woman vs. Emma Frost Hulk vs. Doomsday
Wonder Woman vs. Loki Hulk vs. Lobo (with Red Lantern ring)
Did some purely Marvel vs. DC matchups, I'd actually like to see some of these hit the pages of a comic someday:
Punisher vs. Jason Todd
Deadpool vs. Deathstroke
Blue Marvel vs. Superman
Moon Knight vs. Batman
Shang-Chi vs. Richard Dragon
Namor vs. Aquaman
Hawkeye vs. Green Arrow
Thor vs. Orion
Doctor Strange vs. Doctor Fate
the Vision vs. Martian Manhunter
Quicksilver (Earth-161) vs. Flash
Ant-Man vs. Atom Smasher
the Lizard vs. Killer Croc
Arcade vs. the Joker
Captain America vs. Guardian
TOO BAD MARVEL DOESNT HAVE ANY REAL VILLIANS. MAGNETO AND DOOM ARE PRETTY MUCH GOOD GUYS NOW. GREEN GOBLIN IS REAL, SO I WOULDNT SAY HES GOOD OR BAD. HES LIKE A REPUBLICAN. I JUST DONT AGREE WITH HIM. HE DID SOME OF THE SAME THINGS CAPTAIN AMERICA DOES. SPIDERMAN, DAREDEVIL, BLACK PANTHER, CAPTAIN AMERICA ALL HAVE HORRIBLE ROUGE GALLERIES. CONSTANTLY, BULLSEYE, KLAW, VENOM, RED SKULL, CROSSBONES, KINGPIN.
I'm all for a New Acts of Vengenance but i think it's important to establish hatred for each other like right now how The Green Goblin has a Hatred for the Avengers and Vice Versa. Give the Villians a reason to hate different heros and it will work. would love to see Mr. negative try to get revenge on The X-Men because of what the X-dudes did. Now they need to get Mr. Sinister to fight Dr. Strange and Ghost Rider. Dr. Doom should declare all out War on Mutants. and Thanos should try to build a new Deviant kingdom in the ocean and go to warm with Namor and Atlantis.
" I totally want to see this:Agree.
I made this around a year ago... I thought it would be funny, and Tony's Power Pack idea reminded me of this! "
" @Lvenger said:Really? Huh. Trust Stark to think of that. Where was that stated? Still would be a good fight. As would Spidey vs Luthor. Lex would be annoyed by Spider-Man's trademark banter. I would love to see exchanges between these 2 characters. But only between modern Luthor not pre crisis luthor as that has already happened" @chalkshark: Thanks for the info. That fight in particular is one I'd like to see. Iron Man for all his technology and intelligence wouldn't be able to stop Magneto ripping his armour off him like paper. So he'd have to think of a completely original strategy to beat him. It would make for a pretty cool fight imo. There are plenty of other matchups I want to see but I can't think of them for the life of me. They only spring to mind once I actually see them so I'll have to wait a while before I remember some "I've heard Iron-Man's armor is made of a material that isn't magnetic. Spider-Man vs. Lex Luthor "
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